Lies about graphic design
- Started
- Last post
- 109 Responses
- ETM0
There are and will always be those that do and don't know the value of a professional. Just this week I had someone involved in a larger project I am on approach me for a small project. Super basic, 3 pages, simple design. I told them that honestly they could get something like this on Squarespace for $8 a month versus paying me a couple thousand. They said they know, but at the end of the day,they don't want o have to deal with it and to have someone
- yurimon0
Sorry @wordsarepictures.
An economist would probably say that when labor or skill or production process reaches a point of ease and efficiency or requires less skill to produce it becomes a commodity. Business thrive to avoid commodification of their processes. This can be done by adding value that is a hidden demand and unique.Also those who dont value professionals try to do things on the cheap, I find usually they have a higher rate of failure. I have seen so many people go against advice not only from tech professionals but also designers and have failures that either cost double or caused them to shutdown their venture.
Depends.
- scarabin0
"don’t confuse legibility with communication, just because something is legible doesn’t mean it communicates and more importantly doesn’t mean it communicates the right thing." -david carson
tell that to any of my bosses
i've been trying to artfully break a movie title in the middle of a poster for years. no banana
- david carson is the last person to tell anyone about legibility & communicationalbums
- wordsarepictures0
Also I feel like I need to post this link on every new thread page, sorry. amzn.to/PEYSQm
- wordsarepictures0
Yurimon that link makes me really sad.
- yurimon0
bollocks!
- Horp0
My first illustration commission... literally my first, with no portfolio or anything, earned me close to £20k.
"Bullshit" you'll say. But its true.
Never earned anything like again that for an illustration from there on.
- In fact my first 6 illustrations were all for one client and must have netted me over 100k over about two years.Horp
- Then I decided to go into illustration. Got an agent, he took three months to get me a commission, and said...Horp
- "Its a big commission! Three thousand pounds!". I said "3K? tell the client to fuck off". I was disgusted.Horp
- Five years later and I'd have been very happy indeed if an illustration commission had paid me £3K.Horp
- Wait till this type of trend hits doctors and lawyers.yurimon
- This sounds like Argentina, doctors are quite low paid here.Chimp
- autoflavour0
just make the logo bigger, trust me, it will look better
- yurimon0
I have a friend who bought a mansion in Connecticut. It was a fixer upper but It was a weekend home from a graphic designer in late 1920's.
I couldn't believe it. but I did some research and I found that in the 1920's to design a cover for a magazine was something like 5k. doesn't sound like much but 5k in the 1920's
- Horp0
"As a kid in the late 70s & 80s then a teen through the 90s, I saw Graphic Design as being a lucrative career that would attain all of the above"
For a period of time, it was a lucrative career. There were very few practitioners, and a massive gap in knowledge between those that did it and those that didn't.
When I started out in the 80's, the words 'freelance graphic designer' didn't mean 'knob-jockey' or 'utter twat', they meant a fucking nice house in the country, a Porsche, nice clothes and holidays, a fuck load of time off to enjoy the world. My first career ambition, aged 16, was to become a 'freelance graphic designer'.
I achieved that ambition when I graduated in 1993, but it was already losing its kudos by then.
I used to be in awe of a bunch of freelance graphic designers who would be drafted in at my first place of work in the mid 80's though. They were like fucking superstars... this was in Birmingham England.
They were proficient in a wide range of highly skilled techniques and procedures from 'being pure creative' to scamping, and sketching concepts, advanced visualisation and mock-ups, typesetting and finished artwork, and as they left the studio they'd drop an immaculately designed, pre-printed and hand-written invoice on the studio manager's desk, then climb into their 911s and head into the countryside for healthy sportismanlike sex with some bronze, oiled, hardbody female they'd met the previous night in an exclusive wine bar.
The 80's, contrary to popular opinion, were fucking amazing.
You can thank Apple for making your career so shitty and unrewarding.
- Typography was a good career also. people accepted bad kerning for quick design and drop shadow effects.yurimon
- So true, the post and comment. I started my first internship in 1987. Was such a different profession then. I miss working with the type houses, too. I learned to refine type, rework the rag on columns, etc. I'm now feeling like Ineed to give that up because deadlines just dont allow for it anymore.Josev
- with the type houses, too. I learned to refine type, rework the rag on columns, etc. I'm now feeling like Ineed to give that up because deadlines just dont allow for it anymore.Josev
- that up because deadlines just dont allow for it anymore.Josev
- lodef0
Thanks to the PC, anybody can do it!
- i_monk0
Print is dead.
- albums0
First and foremost, the criticism here is useless and usually results in design by committee, something this board also bemoans, in short, ignore qbn design advice as a whole.
The lie here being qbn is good for you.
- It's criticism BECAUSE things are usually design by committee, which slowly grinds down our design school dreams (lies).i_monk
- 23kon0
Where is my mansion?
Where is my collection of sports cars?
Where is my expensive yet sustainable cocaine habit?
Where is all da biatches?
Where is my second home in a hot country?As a kid in the late 70s & 80s then a teen through the 90s, I saw Graphic Design as being a lucrative career that would attain all of the above.
Sadly I was misled.
- attentionspan0
it's fun
- d_rek0
Going to one 'Big Name Art/Design School' will make you more desirable as an employee post graduation.
- qTime0
The interest on your student load is so small you'll hardly notice it.