Freedom of Speech @ Work 2828 Responses

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• omg

  Do you honestly think you have them?

  I recently heard a story of this guy who told a funny story at work. The guy worked at this unknown design agency for this unnamed big corporation we all know. Problem is that the story was retold and retold til the boss heard it, whom did not like it one bit.

  So in comes some deception. People close to the boss, stepped into production and purposely persuaded bad decisions based on this story. The final outcome was the final product looked bad for the client. Based on the story, it went back to the storyteller who said his story was a joke. He did not know this was going to affect design decisions. The guy was immediately fired for his joke that created problems in production, causing confusion, thereby disrupting work.

  Nov 19, 11, 12:41 p.m. – Permalink

• d_rek

  What the fuck are you getting on about?

  

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  Dog-earNov 19, 11, 12:43 p.m. – Permalink

• akrok

  what goes around, comes around.

  

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  Dog-earNov 19, 11, 12:44 p.m. – Permalink

• akrok

  just cause you can say "what ever" don't mean you should.

  • <-- right on.– d_rek

  

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  Dog-earNov 19, 11, 12:44 p.m. – Permalink

• Continuity

  Freedom of speech ≠ being absolved from responsibility to uphold things like decorum in the workplace, professional behaviour or outright pissing people off because you technically can.

  • this is true. but here we see how boss money changes the world based on boss preference– omg

  

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  Dog-earNov 19, 11, 12:52 p.m. – Permalink

• ukit2

  There is no freedom of speech at work. Especially not in a "right to work" state where the boss can fire you for any reason they want.

  • whats worse here is that the guy was set up– omg

  

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  Dog-earNov 19, 11, 12:58 p.m. – Permalink

• moldero

  I once told my design director to go fuck himself out loud in a team meeting as I was sticking up for the entire team, I didn't get fired, but I did get a bunch of bullshit excuses why they wouldn't increase my pay on my review.

  

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  Dog-earNov 19, 11, 1 p.m. – Permalink

• moldero

  When keepin it real goes wrong:
  http://www.comedycentral.com/vid…

  • lol– omg

  

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  Dog-earNov 19, 11, 1 p.m. – Permalink

• lambsy

  i'm guessing that guy was you?

  • no it wasn't.– omg1/2

    <– set2/2

  

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  Dog-earNov 19, 11, 1:05 p.m. – Permalink

• georgesIII

  let me get this straight,
  you heard a story from a story of a story?

  ?

  • inception?– omg

  

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  Dog-earNov 19, 11, 1:05 p.m. – Permalink

• jon_d

  When you have a bunch of people getting together to work, theres a lot of shit that can go down.

  • Yeh. Fuck that - work on your own. Other people are dicks.
    (including me)– mikotondria3

  

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  Dog-earNov 19, 11, 1:08 p.m. – Permalink

• omg

  The reality is that the joke did not initially cause any problems within production. The guy was set up to look as though it did.

  

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  Dog-earNov 19, 11, 1:24 p.m. – Permalink

• akrok

  so, you guys are hiring now. lol.

  • I imagine there is an open position.– omg1/3

    if you want to work for such a company– omg2/3

    haha...good point.– akrok3/3

  

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  Dog-earNov 19, 11, 1:27 p.m. – Permalink

• mikotondria3

  His only hope is to call it out - it being the fact that the persons he names, between him and the boss, colluded to deliberately misinterpret something that was obviously intended rhetorically. They are in the wrong, not him. We all use rhetoric and satire and parody within our conversations - society could not function without the self-awareness of the dialectic, and these people have deliberately ignored an unspoken aspect of civilisation for their own nefarious ends. It is they who have lied and misrepresented the truth to their boss, and it is they who must be SPRAYED IN THE FUCKING FACE AT CLOSE QUARTERS EVEN IF THEY SIT QUIETLY ON THE GROUND !!!! #OCCUPYYOURJOB!!!!

  • corporations and gov'ts causing us to fight against one another.– omg

  

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  Dog-earNov 19, 11, 1:52 p.m. – Permalink

• ukit2

  • reminds me of martin short– omg

  

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  Dog-earNov 19, 11, 2:04 p.m. – Permalink

• jon_d

  a good director knows how to sift through the bullshit and stick to the script.

  • yep– doesnotexist

  

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  Dog-earNov 19, 11, 2:08 p.m. – Permalink

• doesnotexist

  you still have to be responsible for what you say especially when you're working with a lot of people.

  if the cd ended up hearing it and didn't like it, sounds like a bad move on the guy who initially said it and probably a bad reaction to the joke, if it was that, from the cd.

  but regardless, he is the boss. if he sees it affecting other workers and teams, firing the guy who said it sounds fair enough to me.

  • yes, however the guy was set up, so that he could be fired.– omg1/2

    responsible yes... but unless the guy was a repeat offender, is firing the best solution?– omg2/2

  

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  Dog-earNov 19, 11, 2:15 p.m. – Permalink

• georgesIII

  what was the joke?

  • «-- this– lajj

  

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  Dog-earNov 19, 11, 4:06 p.m. – Permalink

• omg

  A creative director came up with a slogan that emphasized the company's hard working efforts. A photo shoot was created to take pictures of the employees hard at work. However the images were not ready, so the designer used a placement image. Using real photos the company collected of employees hard at work.

  These realistic photos caught people working, depressed, images of slave labor came to mind, things the company did not want to express. However these photos were real images captured within the company. The designer thought it was funny, but used them as placement imagery. At least til the ones from the photo shoot arrived. Somehow the placement images circulated throughout the agency and to the company.

  • Sounds like this person deserved to get fired. I would had fired them if it upset the client or not.– dMullins1/2

    tame. an illustrator i know accidentally left a layer on his print file - a giant cock sticking out of a skirt.– inteliboy2/2

  

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  Dog-earNov 19, 11, 4:19 p.m. – Permalink

• NONEIS

  I dont see how "speech" has anything to do with this...

  • speech is a form of communication. this is all part of a communication process.– omg

  

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  Dog-earNov 19, 11, 5:29 p.m. – Permalink

• jon_d

  yeah it is just bad administration

  

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  Dog-earNov 19, 11, 5:30 p.m. – Permalink