Client's Brother's Opinion
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- i_monk0
Tack on a 300% surcharge for spontaneous and unilateral change on plans/process. Have him sign it before proceeding.
- whatthefunk0
Want the project but want to make sure the client honors our process. Don't want to be designing the designs of another. Thanks for the perspective
- Continuity0
Guh, eject them ASAP. Sounds to me like they'll be disrespecting you, your capabilities and your counsel at every turn.
- manonthestreet0
Revisit the contract, assign resources to manage the new direction, charge more for management and integrating the new third party than you eliminate in design.
- animatedgif0
Not worth the hassle IMHO
- Handel0
I think it's a mistake to become a reactionary and self-righteous artist at this early stage. Again, incorporate this brother's work. Adapt it, improve it, and show something altogether better.
- i_monk0
Tell him this isn't what you agreed to.
- Hombre_Lobo0
if you can risk losing the work..
Show him why his brothers designs don't work. Then site him something that does. Gain confidence from client, get rid of shite uncles brothers hair dressers mums designs.
- orrinward0
For now, I'd say just do your bit and work with this guys crappy design. If they like the final outcome, you've got paid for more work than you've done. Take your money, smile and don't put it in your folio.
If they go back on the shoddy design and ask you to have a go at what you excel at, you get paid for the crappy work then charger again for what you're good at.
- monospaced0
I would hate to design someone else's work like that, especially in that situation, ignoring my whole process. Get paid and get out.
- Handel0
There are repercussions to capriciously leaving a client.
- whatthefunk0
These type of things are always tricky and sometimes I'm guilty of turning small things into big things and reacting before responding. Some clients are tough, these guys are great for the most part, but like any client they don't view our process as being as important as the final output. There is more than one way to skin a cat but I'm starting to feel like the cat and not the one doing the skinning anymore. We'll see how this goes.
- Miesfan0
Tell him he isn't his brother. What, you had, years ago, an affair with her mother and he is your son. Everything will be easier later.
- nb0
Buy him an iPad.
- cannonball19780
Get your brother to do some designs and show up with a counter brother offer. If you have no brother, show up with your mother's design. It's not your brother, but it rhymes enough. Hopefully he doesn't have a mother.
- MSTRPLN0
"by the way, since my brother was the creative lead on this project, we've both decided to give you half of what we initially set out to pay you"
- voiceof0
You should ask for contact with the brother and try to incorporate him into some of your discussions. The brother holds clout and you should use this to your advantage. If he is in town, bring him in and walk him through the process. Question his decisions and how they fit into your existing direction. He will be one guy among a team of professionals, he will fold if you approach it right. In the end hopefully you have a win-win.
- UKV0
If you do end up doing it, you'll have to live with the stench of someone else dominating your creative work. No thanks. Not only that, but everything you do should at least in some way benefit you beyond the financial aspect (its easy to reduce it to just money, but that is no way to do great work and respect yourself in the process.
I am paraphrasing Steve Jobs here, but "what you say no to is ultimately more significant than what you are willing to say yes too" for what its worth. I'd fire the client on the spot, or more diplomatically, decline the working arrangement.
- sigg0
So he's your client's father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate then?
- Handel0
Perhaps not yet. Time to get political. Show them some appreciation. But, also show them something better.