IPR quandry
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- JSK0
You can still buy fiberglass from original spec at licenses manufacturer.
I thought the molded plastic was original intention but due to material shortage, fiber glass was used but later changed to plastic. My understanding was that the molded version was approved either by the designer or estate. The other molded chair by Panton was never produced in fiber glass.
- nb0
Imagine a musician storming out of a marketing meeting because some of the staff had mp3s on their iPods that they did not pay for.
Ha.
- ETM0
- mydo0
I like this James Biber chap, he speaks a lot of sense!
- JUnior130
anyone know what kind of font they use
for DKNY
- mydo0
It's been a long time since QBN has made me really think about a design topic. Shame that an anonymous felt the need to blacken my real name for starting a debate. Anyway....
- mydo0
- detritus0
Irrespective of the morality of your choice, your client sounds like more than a bit of an arse.
- JSK0
I would take on a challenge of making my own.
- JSK0
Mydo, you are still trying to justify by asking questions. "Would you would you?" That is not a debate. If you have a credible debate, please share.
- mydo0
We bought a replica due to there not being good alternatives.
$1000 chairs
Ikea chairs
replica chairs
crap
- JSK0
At least you should have put those fake chairs away.
- mydo0
The topic is more than just "would you". it's about where you stand on IPR. I know we are being the internet protagonists, but do you really take yourself so seriously?
Even if you had a licence for every font you owned, how about a font that is based on another. Do you delete these from your system? Would you leave a restaurant if you believed their lampshades to not be licensed? I know for a fact the cut of your clothes was stolen from another. Why should such a strong view apply to one thing and not another. Because copyright taken to the Nth degree would be crippling, it's just not practical now.To sell something as an original is fraud.. To pretend you have talent like Mr b@ash is a different matter altogether.
I've spent the last 7 years living in a culture where everything is copied. I don't just mean sticking an apple logo on a calculator and calling it an iphone. but entire BMW's and water. There are a 1000 rip offs but only one original, this doesn't weaken the brand value of the original, it strengthens it. This is the difference between copy and fake, and this isn't a divide many people make.
There is too much weight on ownership. The world has changed. Why should a design for a single piece of plastic be protected forever? Why shouldn't you have the right to buy any shape bit of plastic you like?
- pr20
There are "chairs" - the first image that pops up in your head when you think chair. And there are objects of art that also are used to sit on thus can also be called chairs. If you are trying to get a piece of furniture to sit on then fine, get what you want. But if you are trying to be cool cause you have such awesome "objet d'art" in your office and think that you can get away with $50 replica - then you are a cunt and a hack.
mydo seems to be from China - where creativity has no value and bottom line is the king thus it's hard for him/her to even comprehend that someone would want the real thing.
- ukit0
In Communist China, the chair sits on you
- Nathan_Adams0
Considering Vitra sell them for anywhere up to $1500, for what is essentially just injection moulded plastic (not even fibreglass!), is there any wonder why people seek out replicas?
I'm not condoning it, but more people would buy the "real thing" if there wasn't a gazillion percent markup just to have "Knoll" or "Vitra" stamped on the bottom of it.
- Disagree. So what about a brochure, it's just paper and ink?MrT
- My 12 year old can do photoshop.JSK
- Do you charge a 3000% markup on a brochure?Nathan_Adams
- Paper and ink cost 2.5 cents at a local copy store. Thats $75 for the brochure at 3000% markup.JSK
- moldero0
tell the client to stop being such a pussy