Copyright: BoingBoing vs. Daily Mail
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- Kiino
Some of you know BoingBoing.net as a blog that gets mad respect for being on the cusp of tech, culture, science, steampunk art, etc.
Some of you know BoingBoing co-founder Cory Doctorow's ardent stance on copyright issues, especially concerning the web.Cory just posted re: the Daily Mail jacking his wife's photo. Great read:
http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16…
- Iogout0
wow that sux
- i_monk0
meh
- GeorgesII0
Ah
- Kiino0
It was always my impression that Cory Doctorow believed copyright law should more or less be abolished and "fair use" of creative works should be widely expanded. But apparently not. Based on the comments on the boingboing post, I'm not the only one who misunderstood the intricacies of his stance. Looking forward to clarification and how this matter evolves.
- were we reading the same article? He was showing the hypocrisy of large media organisations who are happy to sue small bloggers/publishers when it it suits them but unwilling to pay up in the reverse situationAncillary
- sue small bloggers/publishers when it it suits them but unwilling to pay up in the reverse situationAncillary
- Thinking of the bigger story here. Response below.Kiino
- i_monk0
I think it has more to do with exposing the hypocrisy of ardent copyright law defenders who then flaunt it when it suits them. One can be for the abolition or overhaul of existing rules while still demanding everyone play by those rules in their current form.
- honest0
plagiarism is the new hacking
- detritus0
All of that logopond site is bullshit.
Most of the testimonials are bullshit.
Blatantly just thieved or made up everything.
- “we specialize in financial planning” indeed.
http://www.spay-neut…detritus - Is that cat neutering the dog by eating them off?voiceof
- “we specialize in financial planning” indeed.
- detritus0
"ohn Williams, owner of Logo Garden, has been helping startups with constructing a business image for over fifteen years. John has published extensively on the subject of branding and the importance of a well designed logo. In addition to his 25 years in advertising, John is an avid golfer and fisherman as well, and enjoys both those activities with his teenage son.
BULLSHIT.
- Kiino0
Okaay...back on topic here.
Ancillery: Yes, same article. He's showing the hypocrisy of large media corp., agreed. I'm all for that. But it's one part of a larger story.
Based on Cory's many writings and talks (TED conferences, etc.), many of us were/are not clear on his overall copyright stance. Maybe I'm a bit dense. Seems it wasn't immediately apparent to many of the commenters in that post either (those quick to call Cory himself out as a hypocrite). So I'm not alone in being surprised or seeing irony in this.
I want to hear more on his views as they pertain to individual creators such as his wife, myself, etc. And what he might consider "business" or "commercial" use. Especially now that certain blogs, even many "small ones" are generating some pretty decent revenues.
But instead of jumping him, I personally look forward to more clarification. This incident is already beginning to do that.
- raf0
I don't think Doctorow advocates abolishing of copyright rights, he's just giving away his own books for free in digital format which promotes him as a writer and the sale of the paper editions.
- i_monk0
Opinions on intellectual property
Doctorow believes that copyright laws should be liberalized to allow for free sharing of all digital media. He has also advocated filesharing.[27] He argues that copyright holders should have a monopoly on selling their own digital media, and copyright laws should only come into play when someone attempts to sell a product currently under someone else's copyright.
Doctorow is an opponent of DRM, claiming that it limits the free sharing of digital media and frequently causes problems for legitimate users (including registration problems that lock users out of their own purchases and prevent them from being able to move their media to other devices and platforms).[28]
- doesnotexist0
is this a joke
doesn't the gap own that photo? kind of like photographing an NBA game?
- Kiino0
The Gap wouldn't own it, but they may have some say in the matter. I'm not an attorney, but my understanding is that the use of an image for legitimate news purposes (as long as it's not slanderous/untrue) is legal.
The NBA most certainly has control of images used outside of news reporting such as advertising/promoting other products (sneakers), merchandise (posters, shirts, apps, etc.). But if anyone's aware of NBA terms beyond that, please share.