I Love Lightroom.

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  • bogue0

    mg33 : If you use LR's actual import feature you should see in the import dialogue box the destination of where you're importing to. As long as the target is the catalogue on your FW drive then it should duplicate the files to that drive. This is the exact same way I have my LR setup and it works seamlessly. I do, however, remember being a little apprehensive for the same reasons when i set things up this way. If you want to be extra sure... once you've imported said photos, right click on them and reveal them in finder... then you'll know for sure if they're on your external or not.

  • genfour0

    inteliboy^it's much simpler than pshop. Don't get me wrong I will still use PS for anything technical. LR is great for all the minor tweaks/edit's needed. learning curve is really quick

    Look at the shortcuts (cmd + / to view them for every mode- "library", "develop" are the two main modes). Real quick my workflow is like:
    plug in card, upload box comes up.
    use an import preset to add photos to my catalog
    once imported go to previous import and keyword all of the shots
    I have smart filters setup so they automatically go into different folders depending on keyword

    press F a few times to go into fullscreen. tab to get rid of extraneous menus.

    G to enter grid view. Select a photo and E to go into Loupe view (basically single photo view). If I like it I flag it ( ' key). From there it'll automatically go to a smart collection. If I'm not sure I go back to grid view (G) and select a few similar and press C to compare. tab to bring in menus if I need them.

    editing I'll surf around in Grid or Loupe view and select multiples and apply a user preset to batches that need the same preset. then D to get into develop mode, or Q to go specifically to spot removal. R to go straight to crop/rotate. K to go straight to adjustment brush. As soon as I'm done fucking with it it's back to grid or loupe. arrow to the next one. repeat.

    then lastly go to the smart collection for "flag as picked" + whatever keywords and export. I have preset export settings for small, large, thumbnail, etc. and even auto watermarks.

    dealing with the client usually enter fullscreen mode (F), Shift + tab to hide all menus, C to compare, L a couple of times to dim the lights and set the mood, in develop mode (D) press Y to show before and after BAM fingers in client's pussy and purse.

    • I forgot after general edits in LR if I need to do anything technical CMD + E to edit in PSgenfour
    • make the edits and a copy will show up in your LR catalog next to the OGgenfour
  • twooh0

    ^Sandder, it does the same thing, but better, and more tailored for photographers. It's like comparing Cinema 4D to Maya end-users, they're two separate markets.

    If all you want to do is processing and tweaking a RAW file, and that's it, then photoshop will suffice. You could even use the Canon or Nikon software that comes bundled and processes RAW.

    But I have hundreds of RAW images per project, and it is a far better tool for management, processing, and it will save you hundreds in working hours if you work enough in it like I do.

    • Thanks for the feedback. I will give it a spin. I still think it does exactly the same, but i can imagine using 1 program instead of RAW and Bridge can be an improvement. (allthough i have bridge open on a second screen, which makes it pretty manageble, even if i have to work through a big shoot)Sandder
  • mg330

    Love? Really?

    I LOVE when a speed metal band plays the kind of solo riffs that would give my mom a heart attack if she were able to see it from 5 feet away.

    I LOVE when that scene comes on in Raiders of the Lost Ark, where the one guy screams and his head melts.

    I LOVE when you watch a porn, and it's like any old porn, but there's still that moment of suspense when you're not quite sure if the guy is gonna go in her mouth or on her face. Not even that scene at the beginning of Cliffhanger where the girl dies does that kind of suspense exist.

    But LOVE using software? Good grief.

    • you love watching other men sweat on stage? i stopped reading...registe
    • someone must not 'love' photographytwooh
  • registe0

    this is the main reason lightroom is better. non destructive edits with edit states saving to each individual image. the possibility to go back in time on your edits once you've close the application and reopened it is so far beyond photoshop's RAW processing, the two shouldn't even be compared

    • nice end mark flourish..slappy
    • But then again, RAW does that as well.Sandder
  • slappy0

    Haha, that bit made me laugh.

  • inhaler970

    I love LR4. ITS AMAZING! I was always using Raw and Bridge. Recently hooked it up to LR. Its great. Better than raw and Bridge IMHO. The catalog system is ingenious, and makes like much simpler.

    One thing I miss is the ability to set up a sampler target so one can match values up.

    • you can "synch" images with other ones to matchjaylarson
  • Sandder0

    Hm... ok, so the possibilities are the same, but the shortcuts are easier? That it? You can save looks and do batches in RAW as well, the healing instrument works the same etc etc....

    • As a photographer I couldn't imagine working without it.aldebaran
  • utopian0

    I ❤ crushed blacks!

    • lightroom = non destructive black crushingmonNom
  • CyBrainX0

    Does it have the ability to clip out sections where you want a different setting but still be editing in camera raw format? That's my only real complaint about Camera Raw and Photoshop. That and the horrible curves interface.

  • slappy0

    I put off using it until recently, all I would say is download a trial version and give it a go.

  • genfour0

    mg33 yes really.

    after years of using illy, pshop, indesign, which are all ok programs; and before that years of general use on a computer I've realized I've never come across a program so intuitive and such a joy to use.

    I

  • vaxorcist0

    @inhaler97 be careful with the catalog.... I make a new catalog with each project after having crashed and corrupted a catalog once.... maybe that's why LR keeps asking you to backup your catalog, because it's fragile....

  • benfal990

    I like Lightroom too but the files managing is a little bit hard to understand

  • pauli0

    But is it better than:

    I would love if Aperture of Lightroom developed an iCloud
    option for your ENTIRE library.

  • mg330

    Howdy.

    So I bought Lightroom this week and have started learning about it and planning some time to get it situated. Here's an important question some of you may relate to:

    I have an MBP with 128 GB SSD. On average I try to keep about 35GB free. I also have a 1TB external firewire drive that contains all my photos and other things. Easily has 80GB of photos.

    I set up Lightroom to use the external drive for the catalog to prevent any issues down the road with space on my SSD. Can someone explain to me: If I instead use the SSD for my catalogs, and import, for example, a 5GB set of photos, does that actually duplicate the set of photos and place them on the SSD? Or, does the catalog just contain data?

    I discovered that Lightroom doesn't work with catalogs on a Networked drive. Sometimes I put my 1TB external on our network router so I don't have to keep it plugged in if I'm not working in my office at home. So, I'm trying to decide: keep catalogs on the external drive and just always plug it in, or, does it make more sense performance wise to store on the SSD and somehow figure out how to manage any future size issues, move catalogs, etc.
    The thing is, I want to tag all my photos with keywords and do that across the full amount of photos I've imported.

    Any thoughts?

  • omg0

    lightroom rocks!

  • vaxorcist0

    Personally I create a new catalog for each gig and keep it in the same directory as the raw photos for that gig so I can move each project from one computer to another without a dependency mess.... I realize this is not exactly in the lightroom spirit but it is how I do things in capture1pro ... which is also a very nice editor like lightroom..... slightly diferent but nice.....

    I also use photomechanic or fastone to do a first edit/cull bad images before they hit lightroom whenever I edit a big shoot... much faster that way....

    • Exactly the workflow I use and tell everyone I know to use.ArmandoEstrada
  • vaxorcist0

    Personally I create a new catalog for each gig and keep it in the same directory as the raw photos for that gig so I can move each project from one computer to another without a dependency mess.... I realize this is not exactly in the lightroom spirit but it is how I do things in capture1pro ... which is also a very nice editor like lightroom..... slightly diferent but nice.....

    I also use photomechanic or fastone to do a first edit/cull bad images before they hit lightroom whenever I edit a big shoot... much faster that way....

    • My android browser seems to doubls post whenever I post from flash taco in wicker park...vaxorcist
  • SteveJobs0

    yes, but can it remove the background from this image?

    • no
      genfour
    • technically, it could, using the spot removal tool, but it would still be a flat image unsuitable for compositingregiste