2011 Stanley Cup Finals
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- PonyBoy0
ouuuch :)
- pastpastdue0
This win doesn't bode well for Boston's future, IMHO.
- ETM0
^^^
Replace 'Germans' with 'Sedins':
- pastpastdue0
Horton, "severe concussion." Out for the rest of the finals. Both teams have plenty of motivation, whoever hits the most is going to win this.
I'm not worried about the Sedin twins mad. They will get shut down. The people you don't want playing mad is Kesler or Bieksa. When Kesler gets mad, he plays twice as hard, twice as fast and twice as nasty.
- See: all Kesler's jawing at the end of the second and the fight with Seidenberg.pastpastdue
- Jaline0
Sure, the Sedins haven't been able to score as much. But they still get opportunities. And Chara has been shut down quite well too, and he's the captain of the team.
Not sure what the outcome will be, but we'll see if Thomas can keep it together or if the Canucks can keep hammering the net with pucks. They had a good start until those first couple of goals went in (probably after the Horton hit, but it was still early on in the game so Boston could have had that much energy even without one of their own being injured).
- heathen0
Kesler is definitely a workhorse. I wouldn't dismiss the Sedins just yet... even if you do, vancouver's line is way deeper than boston's. Plus they just gave up a 4th line D-man for a 1st line Bruin...
Having said that... Thomas is just killing it. I hope it goes to game 7. Always down for more hockey action.
- It's not that I'm dismissing them, I just think they have been spectacularly disappointing thus far.pastpastdue
- true. i hope this recent embarrassment lights a fire in their basement...heathen
- elektro0
Aaron Rome suspended 4 games after is move on Nathan Horton
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?…and Chara got nothing after is hit on Pacioretty ... at least it changed the nhl rules against head hits ..
- Good those kind of hits don't belong in hockey at all.Iggyboo
- Chara's hit was just as bad. But to his defense that dangerous spot should be corrected on the boards. they should not be sharp there should be rounded.Iggyboo
- there. it should be rounded edges on those corners.Iggyboo
- Rome's hit is the exact type of hit they are trying to get out of the leagueOP31
- spot130
Sorry, this is all my fault, I trimmed my playoff beard yesterday! Should have known better, I was over confident with Vancouver's two game sweep. Won't happen again.
- OP310
Bruins are gonna surge back, hope this goes 7 games b/c its shaping up to get real ugly and fun to watch ha
- eieio0
Rome didn't go head hunting, he went after the guy with the puck it was just bad timing. It was a split second after Horton passed, if he kept the puck the hit would have been huge and perfectly legal. On the other hand if Horton had kept his head up and watched where he was going it would have been a lot less worse.
- It was suspendable but it wasn't that dirty a hit really. Could have been better timing.eieio
- aldebaran0
Rome's hit was a late dirty cheap shot. Plain and simple. And even though I'm cheering for Vancouver I'm glad he's been suspended for the play-offs. The game is losing to many of it's great players to head injuries.
The rule should be as follows : If you take someone out with a cheap shot you're suspended until that player is able to return to the ice. Problem solved.
- not dirty or cheap, just a tad lateeieio
- He left the ground and raised his elbow. He knew exactly what he was doing.aldebaran
- Actually his elbo is completely down. Its a perfectly good hockey hit just too late. There was zero intent to injure.eieio
- too late = 100% in the wrong = you're suspended. end of story.aldebaran
- a late shot with an unfortunate result. But please spare us the dramatic posturing.ThePublics
- It was under a second late in the middle of the ice. It was spendable but who cares. Just big late hit Horton should have been looking.eieio
- ...been looking where he was going.eieio
- aldebaran0
I guess it's not surprising to see so many Canucks fans rushing to the defense of Rome. These are fans that still defend Bertuzzi's actions years later.
- I was at that game.ThePublics
- Bertuzzi punched a guy in the back of the head... this was a slightly late hit. Argument invalid.eieio
- eieio0
well I am by no means defending Rome I am just calling it how i see it. You like a lot of other people want to make it into something its not like by claiming he had his elbo up when it was obviously way down. Late hits happen, suspend the guy, he's not playing in the finals anymore right? .4 milleseconds quicker and everyone would be calling the hit of the year and Horton still would have been knocked out and concussed.
- ThePublics0
Here's the thing:
Hockey players get hurt. It's a fast, violent, dangerous game. Always has been, and that's why it's so exciting. There are plenty of safer games out there for people who get queezy about concussions.
Personally, I've had two major concussions with zero side effects or long term complications. One from skateboarding, one from a street fight.
The difference between myself and a professional hockey player is that I don't get paid millions of dollars for my trouble and no one ever called the waaaambulance over my spilled brain cells.
Hockey players aren't babies, they are gladiators. Let's hope it stays that way and that a creeping false morality doesn't corrupt the game.
- aldebaran0
- doesn't get any cheaper than that.aldebaran
- LOL. It not cheap you pussy... its a big hit, why the fuck is Horton looking the other way? because he is a dumbasseieio
- you clearly don't understand how the game is playedaldebaran
- you clearly don't understand that a hockey player ALWAYS have to look where he's going, hockey basics.elektro
- it was late, but still a legal hit since it's with the shoulder and not the elbowelektro
- it was cheap. left his feet too.OP31
- his feet left after the hit, they were both going fast, it's physics in actionelektro
- pastpastdue0
The hit wasn't malicious. I agree, poor timing, poor result. I think it was suspension worthy.
What you have to consider is the implication: Boston loses its number one right winger to a number five defenseman. The league doesn't want to see the best players in it getting hurt. I don't think it was worth four, but the number makes sense, it removes him for the rest of the series.
Total lip service to the Bruins, who undoubtedly wanted to get Horton's diagnosis out before the review. Murphy hears he won't be returning to the series, looks at the level of players, and says "well, there is no way to compensate. Rome should be out for the rest of the series if Horton doesn't return, which he won't."
- Rome left his feet after the hit. His elbow was down. As a referee, you are taught anything beyond two strides is a late hit.pastpastdue
- ... after dishing the puck off, it's a late hit.pastpastdue
- its a late hit... and thats iteieio
- it's totally normal to lift your feet during or after a hit. it's before that is illegal.Fanco
- Jaline0
Some questions to think about:
- should a suspension be determined AFTER the play has already been done and there was a penalty issued? I suppose penalties are done in the moment whereas suspensions are done after, and both methods have their flaws.
- Should suspensions be determined by how hurt the hit player is? Or should they be determined by the intention, location, and specific situation?
In this case, I think 4 games is valid, but still questionable when you look at other hits that have gone on (even some by the Canucks themselves). In those situations, no one received suspensions for those because the victims could still play afterwards. But perhaps the angle was just off, and Horto's body couldn't sustain a hit like that.