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- scarabin0
- Oh, to be a fly on that wall right now as he gives the board his detailsscarabin
- Personally, I don't believe Mr Grusch. I feel he's a fantasist. I'm basing this entirely on just watching the hearing you posted.Nairn
- We’ll see (hopefully). My thoughts on him as a person aside, i think he’s onto something. The sheer number of witnesses and documentation he has is staggeringscarabin
- Either way, a more transparent government and tighter oversight is a good thing and it look like we may be headed in that directionscarabin
- They need to create an open reporting system that guarantees immunity for reporters to encourage personnel, pilots, data to come forwardprophetone
- This was suggested here and has been suggested in previous hearings, interviews... pretty logical, airline pilots aren't jumping at chance to share experiencesprophetone
- ...for fear of getting laughed at, losing shifts, eventually getting canned, career overprophetone
- ...same goes for military, prob even more soprophetone
- Absolutely. That’s the first thing they mentioned today. Hopefully we’ll see that soonscarabin
- It's a SCIF. It's the the thing that Trump and Co did totally illegal things like.. BRING THEIR CELL PHONES INTO THEM. Some of the docs found in his bathroomgarbage
- were only supposed to be in SCIF rooms. Trump and I believe Kushy snuck cell phones into them.garbage
- https://vm.tiktok.co…prophetone
- lol, the subtitles and comments there.garbage
- Oh yeah, i heard gaetz stormed one he wasn’t invited to. Crazy to see him testify today seeing footage of us downing a UAP. iirc he said it was “otherworldly”scarabin
- He's such a tremendous sack of shit. The only otherworldly thing he's seen is in his bathroom mirror.garbage
- _niko1
What happened when Europeans first discovered the Americas? Did the natives keep their interactions and meetings with the Vikings a secret? did they engage and try to learn from them/trade with them etc?
What about Columbus and the natives he encountered in the Caribbean?
Did the military leaders keep int from the general populace? what about the shamans, the cheifs or the craftsmen? were they privy to this info, did they demand to see how they might enrich their lives or benefit their society?
It all doesn't add up for me. I get that the military's (US only BTW) mission is to protect its citizens but surely an advanced and sophisticated enough civilization capable of faster than light speed isn't malevolent has motives other than turning us into cattle.
Why would scientists and other experts not have access to this new-found trove of world-changing information and tech? this would be the most important discovery in the history of mankind, and the only people that know about it are shadowy conspiracy theorists and Benito Mussolini?
hmm.
- What if we are like ants in this scenario and the technology is like that of humans.Morning_star
- yeah and our military leaders are like zoolander trying to get the files out of the computer. My point exactly, give the tech to our brightest scientists_niko
- I can think of reasons why sharing with public is considered a bad idea - if we (US) can’t gain an advantage then no-one can , just in case they succeed.Morning_star
- What world do you live in... this world's nations have spent last 100 years in paranoid state, keeping secrets from each other, keeping secrets its own citizensprophetone
- Of course scientists are involved, can't be all, but those tapped to sort out this new knowledge, develop solutions that absolutely best serve their own nationprophetone
- This is literally what humans do when left on autopilot, always striving to stay ahead of the other guy b/c <insert exhausting age old reason>prophetone
- I don’t know, it teams of new age pseudo science to me, just like god came down to the desert of Israel and enlightened a bunch of goat fucking shepherds_niko
- That’s the US and the ufos, only in America, nowhere else on this entire planet, a planet of 6 billion cel phone cameras and an infinitely number of_niko
- CCTVs, dash cams, security cams, satellites etc and we don’t have one single clear shot of any ufo. Just blurry nonsense that could easily be debunked_niko
- scarabin2
Key takeaways from today’s hearing:
(Copied from the discussion on reddit)-IRAD abuse - defence contractors misappropriating funds with govt collusion. Mention of “self-funding”
-Grusch has spent 11 hours with both intel committees
-US govt / contractors have craft and non-human biologics
-US govt / contractors have intimidated, hurt, and potentially murdered would-be whistleblowers
-Individuals in charge of classification (access to information) are both senior executive officials in both military / dod and defence contractors - unelected officials
-Satellite imagery of crashes, tests, retrievals exists
-US govt / contractors could have advanced tech that has been made from reverse engineer efforts
-Grusch and his wife were intimidated in a disturbing way
-Grusch knows people who have seen the non-human biologics
-Grusch has seen photos and documents
-Gaetz saw footage of orb UAP
-Grusch saw footage of shootdown and said craft was otherworldly
-It’s potential for this to also be inter-dimensional - mention of holographic principle
-People will get fired or have pay cut if they don’t get access to a SCIF for next hearing
-People have been injured working on ufo legacy reverse engineering programs and pontentially hurt by NHI
-Grusch will tell congress everything classified they would like to know in a SCIF
-Grusch will give AOC list of involved individuals directly after the hearing
-According to Grusch, statement made by Dr. Fitzpatrick of aaro that there is no evidence of extraterrestrial visitation or objects defying known science are innacurate - Grusch was under oath, Fitzpatrick was not
-When asked about communication with nhi, grusch stated he can only talk about this in a classified setting
-Boeing allegedly engaged in incident involving red cube size of football field
-Grusch cannot confirm or deny dept of energy involvement
- grainy crappy vids of drone sized UFO's is bad enough, but a cube the size of a football field and nobody snapped a selfie?
lol cube . gif_niko
- grainy crappy vids of drone sized UFO's is bad enough, but a cube the size of a football field and nobody snapped a selfie?
- scarabin1
This guy has been tracking orbs and has a lot of info about them. Fascinating stuff
- hydro744
- NSFWPhanLo
- https://i.imgur.com/…utopian
- ah so they dont probe our asses
that's just where they come fromYakuZoku - On the contrary, not only do they probe, it seems they never come out!Continuity
- FuuuckYakuZoku
- When they probe our asses, are they just trying to get home?futurefood
- futurefood4
Couple more UFOs over Las Vegas this past week.
perhaps it's the planet Venus? or maybe another meteor?
- yuekit1
- The truth is out there...somewhere in the USA.utopian
- Aliens just love America, I can't think of any other possible explanations.yuekit
- US has almost unlimited resources to pursue, retrieve, research and develop these craft. Not surprised US is a hot zone for sightingsfuturefood
- utopian5
- slowly his consistent, detailed story gets backed up as truth in small pieces - given latest Greer stuff, his story fits in as smaller piece a larger pictureprophetone
- Greer’s goal is to convert his work into a self running effort with key knowledge experience from Lazar-type ex scientists, engineersprophetone
- Will be interesting to see if those people are at an idgaf anymore age now where they start to come out of the woodwork to share firsthand knowledgeprophetone
- I don't care how dumb or not dumb this is, it is so entertaining. Went down a Bob Lazar rabbit hole multiple times.jagara
- Raybandana-4
apparently house cam footage from the los vegas incident -
- sure. and did they go running down the street like will farrell in old school. Did Jesse the body come by and convince everyone they were just seeing things?_niko
- I think this is al viral marketing for the x-files reboot https://www.independ…_niko
- https://www.independ…_niko
- Could be faked, but does look very real. So unsettling.Raybandana
- It’s as fake as you thinking trump won the election, you gullible ignorant fuck.monospaced
- Fucking claymantis always showing up to show us what a moron he really is. This only fools fucktard idiots.monospaced
- My wife and daughter died in a car accident yesterday. Thanks for the kind words.Raybandana
- You should share with your family, your comments on here. I bet your child and wife would be super proud of you.Raybandana
- That alien camel toe is hot...hydro74
- scarabin4
Executive Summary of Disclosure Project Briefing Document
https://siriusdisclosure.com/wp-…Lots more accounts in here like the ones in Dr Greer’s stream yesterday. Coming from some really connected folks high in the chain of command.
Is it even possible that every single person here is lying..? What does it mean if even one of these accounts is true?
- If someone says they saw something they can’t explain, it doesn’t mean it’s a lie. It also doesn’t mean it’s an alien.monospaced
- Like, are religious people lying when they say they god listens to their prayers? No, they honestly believe it.monospaced
- Yes that’s the point... most uap footage is likely man made vehicles, but clearly illustrate energy, propulsion abilities beyond our common techprophetone
- So probably not alien in that moment but clearly not human level tech as we know it so derived from something we didn’t figure out ourselvesprophetone
- So if you believe Greer and his decades of research it makes a lot of sense, off world tech has ended up here, humans doing our best to hide, exploit itprophetone
- Would really be amazing to see someone like Elon with the money, resources to back up Greer’s team efforts to help expedite it allprophetone
- You boys really are going all-in on this, aren't you?Continuity
- If you’re on board with reality of us sending random scout vehicles to Mars using caveman tech, how far fetched is this as being the other way around?prophetone
- All it needs is a possibility that the other civilization is ahead of us by what? A few hundred years? What if it’s 1000? What’s conceivably possible?prophetone
- Just seems logical. And the evil human organization aspect hoarding, hiding, exploiting... sounds exactly like what we’d do in a heartbeat.prophetone
- I know. And I'm not un-sympathetic, believe me. I've carried my sci-fi nerd credentials proudly my whole life. But the chances of these randos being in any wayContinuity
- ... right seem infinitessimally small to me.Continuity
- And that’s Greer’s focus it seems, it exists, but amazingly that’s not the lead, it’s that we’ve taken it and have exploited it in the predictable wrong waysprophetone
- Something I've learned after reading about UFOs over the past week is that many people don't think the aliens are coming from outer space...yuekit
- The more popular theory now seems to be that the UFOs are beings from another dimension. I guess it answers the question of why the aliens would fly such a longyuekit
- distance and then just hang out on Earth, occasionally abducting someone or killing a cow.yuekit
- But sounds like this Greer guy is saying extraterrestrials, so he's giving a different version than David Grusch.yuekit
- It’s far fetched because of distance, time and the limitations of the known speeds they can be achieved prophet. They’d have to travel hundreds of yearsmonospaced
- another dimension gets around that, but to all known experts in THAT field it isn’t something we can verify or contact in any waymonospaced
- That stuff seems to get way too much into the weeds imo... we'll prob never fully understand it... maybe it's both, or leveraging space-time, or something elseprophetone
- Greer touched on possibility of tech w/ ability to leverage quantum entanglement... solves for for long distances? Who really knows at this pointprophetone
- So as far as getting into the weeds... if you first pop on your trusty tin foil hat...prophetone
- 0% chance that aliens ever visited earth. Drone probes possibly. but even then its infinitesimally small._niko
- What if it's not about distance, the big hurdle... what if 'something' could A to B between dimensions, via quantum entanglement or reflectionprophetone
- Again big ole' tin foil hat one that one, best to move on, as gonna be out of our scope of understanding for maybe everprophetone
- more than likely, if they're out there, a combination of acute sensing tech -advanced radio, sonar, mapping, radar etc with advanced AI to simulate visiting_niko
- earth without leaving the comfort of their home planet._niko
- just like us... and we had some kid with a mohawk at a desk at NASA eating Cheetos casually exploring another planet in real timeprophetone
- well not real time, delayed time?prophetone
- The thing that bothers me is greer believes in the existence of god. And he interviewed dirty dick doty in “the cosmic hoax” like he isn’t a self-professed liarscarabin
- I don’t get what richard doty is even doing in the ufo community anymorescarabin
- Lots of things are possible...but what's more likely? Some people bullshitting you or intergalactic and or interdimensionalyuekit
- aliens visiting Earth?yuekit
- The latter b/c at this point the former is spanning wayyyyy more peeps than ‘just some bs peeps’ and over decades now with footage, connections, etcprophetone
- As above even we are an example of the latter, we literally toss robots and vehicles onto other planets for random recon stuffprophetone
- Fermi Paradox, Drake Equation, and the Great Filter.garbage
- If an ET civilization were able to reach us, there are a few points:garbage
- 1: They possess technology that dwarves ours on a logarithmic scale, so they might as well be gods.garbage
- 2: Given 1, do you really think they'd allow themselves to be caught?garbage
- 3: Why the fuck would they be interested in us? If they can travel anywhere, we're just a Disney World that just shits its pants.garbage
- 4. Conclusion: The UFO calls are coming from inside.garbage
- That's an interesting point prophet...is it too many people seeing them for it not to be real?yuekit
- But what do you guys make of a map like this...
https://i.imgur.com/…yuekit - Do the aliens just really love America? Or is it possible it's a cultural phenomenon?yuekit
- Also why are so many people seeing them now but not in the past? Putting aside Ancient Aliens it seem like there was nothing close to the number of sightingsyuekit
- until the idea was introduced in popular culture. You might expect to see futuristic spaceships hovering over Victorian England or the American West or Mingyuekit
- Dynasty China if they were real.yuekit
- yuekit2
Things David Grusch claimed in his interview:
-They're not actually aliens but "non human intelligence" from another dimension
-The US government has recovered at least 12 UFOs that are being held at a private company (but he can't say which one, that would be violating NDAs)
-The Pope knows about the non human intelligence and is part of this conspiracy
-Mussolini recovered a UFO which was later captured by the USA following WW2
-The US government has made a treaty with the non human intelligence...he didn't go into the details of what the treaty says
-Non human intelligence (NHI) has nonetheless killed humans
- "that would be violating NDAs" lolNairn
- all sound plausibly idiotic._niko
- if i remember right the treaty was letting them probe our assholes for tech secretsYakuZoku
- They also enjoy defacing corn fields and gutting livestock, and seem to only prey on americas most uneducated white trash and farmers for some reasonmonospaced
- lol @ NDA that allows him to leak these claims but no detail ... how convenientmonospaced
- and so what if top scientists, astrophysics, engineers etc are in the dark about this as long as the pope knows!_niko
- @mono if i got this right I think he gave the classified info to congress, but he cant to the public since its classifiedYakuZoku
- He wouldn’t be allowed to say this if it was a real ndamonospaced
- slappy4
I remember the previous Disclosure project, the excitement, and the anticipation. I remember thinking the same thing, if just one of these peeps is telling the truth, we are looking at a new world.
Then... nothing much happened — occasional videos and articles. I'm not holding my breath this time for meaningful change.
- These things can take a lot of time, especially due to lack of interestfuturefood
- Now, there are more interested parties and members of congress. it is gaining traction.futurefood
- _niko0
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- https://www.reuters.…_niko
- That faked footage isn't the same as what I posted.Raybandana
- futurefood1
- just watchfuturefood
- I want to believe._niko
- I think it's !00% a chupacabra._niko
- my Spanish is rough. I think they are Oaxacan, but he keeps saying "bald man"futurefood
- YakuZoku3
Lazar is way more convincing then David Grusch imo
If you hadn't watched this yet, this is UFO gold right here
- Lazar is very good in this but I can't really bear Corbell any longer, or at least find him ittitating. The Lazar story is fascinating purely he got very littlefadein11
- from his claims, more so in recent years but still not a lot. God knows, I love this shit, but totally on the fence.fadein11
- *purely becausefadein11
- yeah Corbell is dorky as fuck but he's got a passion for this shit so unfortunately we're stuck with himYakuZoku
- though, Ill take Corbels stuff over the History channel crap any day of the weekYakuZoku
- yup indeed. they just regurgitate the same BS anyone even mildly interested in the subject has seen before.fadein11
- ExactlyYakuZoku
- lazar is an interesting dudescarabin
- yuekit0
So after listening to the David Grusch interview (not sure why it got taken down) it seems like we've had this all wrong.
He's not saying the US government has spacecraft from aliens. The UFOs are part of a "non human intelligence" from another dimension.
- well.. we await the peer reviewed publication of the proven theoretical framework.shapesalad
- I think I can smell the crazy coming off this guy.Continuity
- prophetone3
Live stream of today's UFO/UAP Disclosure Press Conference
- 145 deep-black illegal project bases located across U.S.prophetone
- Lockheed RCS base houses many man-made uap vehicles powered by electromagnetic field propulsion, based on reverse-engineered ufo tech back to 40sprophetone
- electromagnetic-base... systems developed that can 'invisible cloak' vehicles like tanks, any objectprophetone
- existence of man-made alien repro (advanced tech) vehicles based on reverse-engineered tech of magnetic field propulsion systems of 'interstellar vehicles'...prophetone
- "tech would make surface roads obsolete" FUUUCCCKKKfuturefood
- ...proposed to have ability to leverage quantum entanglement to 'fold' time/space allowing vehicle to jump point A to B vs. traditional travel in straight lineprophetone
- 'sunflower seed' uap retrieval team affected by 'electromagnetic teleportation'... they were all sent instantly back from site back to operation baseprophetone
- examples of impenetrable, advanced metallurgy on 'interstellar vehicles'prophetone
- tic tac uap's around since 50s/60s like one seen of San Diego coast in 2004 likely deep-black, man-made vehicles not properly disclosed to even U.S. militaryprophetone
- two types of UAPs exist: actual extra terrestrial and man-made ARV'sprophetone
- extra terrestrial groups are apparently 'not hostile' but concerned with human hostility and weapons systemsprophetone
- existence of 'free energy' - zero point, quantum vacuum energy that can 'pull' energy out of the fabric of space time, like Tesla's theoriesprophetone
- ...this would turn the human race technologies on its head and almost instantly solve our energy, environmental, economic problems... has been withheldprophetone
- Greer has said 'there's a clock' on all of this by end of 2023 for govt's to reveal the truths of this...prophetone
- ...at which point, if all of the data and proof of illegal activities, names etc will be released into wild(?)prophetone
- Greer and others like whistleblowers, ex-govt people exposing truths have been threatened in many ways, offered bribes to keep quiet etcprophetone
- technologies, patents that have been developed from ufo tech and locked up for decades on black operation shelves needs to be released to public, open sourcedprophetone
- these advanced energy generating technologies, when released, could in 10-20 years end all pollution on earth and global povertyprophetone
- ok I'm done with the Coles notesprophetone
- Thank you for the recapdrgs
- Ultimate goal by 2026 - Green team to set up open source, multi scientist, blockchained data lab, open call to contractors scientists who have knowledge...prophetone
- ...to develop as quickly as possibly a protected, zero point, quantum vacuum energy solution for the human raceprophetone
- ...and develop a peaceful, civilian, community based outreach to allow human race to openly communicate with other civilizationsprophetone
- What if the US gov knows all this and is losing the battle with this secret org and is using this guy to “come out” about itscarabin
- ...and enlist help from the rest of the world?scarabin
- The govt(s) have his data so they def aware... he alludes to that at one point that the CDN military guy call it the hot potato but do nothing b/c problem too bigprophetone
- IMO problem is aware or not the government(s) would have to pull a sobering 180 on decades of ufo tech cover up and come 100% fully clean on all of itprophetone
- How do you even start to pull the trigger on that process, he makes points that you can’t just drop names/data all at once as complicated, real lives at stakeprophetone
- YouTube lolmonospaced
- Man that was a wild ridescarabin
- I want a copy of his vault. Analyze it with AIscarabin
- futurefood4
From Live stream
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- So this is what they’re requesting the white house do, it’s not actually from the White House correct?_niko
- ^Correctfuturefood
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