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  • jfletcher

    I used the filter, but none of the topics really covered this. I'm in the US and thinking of moving to Amsterdam for work...well, more than thinking, I have a place to go, so I'm ready to go.

    My issue is I can't figure out taxes. Do I end up paying US and Dutch taxes? I can't imagine as you'd end up paying 80% to taxes and couldn't live. I've read a bunch online, but I can't seem to get a good handle on it.

    Has anyone in the US done this? What exactly happens and who do you end up paying?

    Jan 19, 11, 10 a.m. – Permalink
  • jfletcher

    oh come on.... this is confusing as shit! At least does anyone know an agency or someone I could call for help?
    :'(

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    Dog-earJan 19, 11, 10:25 a.m. – Permalink
  • Bargels

    Are you going to full-time there? Do you have an agency? Then they should have an advisor for you. If not, my experience is:
    As someone who keeps residency in GER, but citizenship in the US, I pay a tax to the US based on my 'worldwide' income. They will continue to take this from me until I give up citizenship. However, I'm a freelancer in Germany, and if I keep my income under a certain amount, I pay their smallest tax. So it evens out so far. Although this is the first year I'm filing as such, so it may blow up.

    Not sure how the Dutch do it, but I'm sure it's similar.

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    Dog-earJan 19, 11, 10:48 a.m. – Permalink
  • CanHasQBN

    this site might help

    http://www.iamsterdam.com/en/liv…

    hoping to be there this year as well.

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    Dog-earJan 19, 11, 1:38 p.m. – Permalink
  • neue75_bold

    you shouldn't have to pay both.. I never did back in canada during the 5 years I lived in A'dam... taxes are pretty steep there as well, like 40%.. but, if you get a job before you move there, you'll be eligible for the 30% Ruling, which in essence means that the first 30% of your income isn't taxed...
    http://www.expatax.nl/30ruling.h…

    More tax info here http://www.expatax.nl/

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    Dog-earJan 19, 11, 1:47 p.m. – Permalink
  • CanHasQBN

    I started learning Dutch a few days ago and got totally turned off by how ugly it sounds. There's this voice in my head that's still saying "Move to Italy!" So I talk back to the voice and people start staring at me, so I shout at the people and call them names in Dutch, confusing them even more. Ok some of that is a lie.

    Anyway, I wish the Dutch spoke Italian. It would be the most perfect place.

    • Haha, I like Dutch. It's weird.Bargels1/2
      flikker toch op, mandigdre2/2
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    Dog-earJan 19, 11, 1:57 p.m. – Permalink
  • neue75_bold

    If you have the motivation to learn and are in a dutch working environment it's not terribly difficult, it's a small vocabulary and the closest non-english language to english, if you know what I mean.. but yeah, a far cry from italian!

    • < says the guy who after 5 years couldn't put a sentence togetherneue75_bold1/7
      its more difficult than italian. the pronunciation of some letters, the g & j are difficult. italian just rolls off my tongue like butter.CanHasQBN2/7
      but yeah, at moments it sounds nearly arabicneue75_bold3/7
      i know arabic actually. and yes it's similar. but dutch is still difficult for some reason.CanHasQBN4/7
      we ARE arabic.janne765/7
      AREbic, even..neue75_bold6/7
      you are arabic? is that a comment on all of the immigrants in NL?CanHasQBN7/7
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    Dog-earJan 19, 11, 2:07 p.m. – Permalink
  • janne76

    english tax site

    http://www.belastingdienst.nl/en…

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    Dog-earJan 19, 11, 2:17 p.m. – Permalink
  • janne76

    individuals

    http://www.belastingdienst.nl/en…

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    Dog-earJan 19, 11, 2:18 p.m. – Permalink
  • digdre

    just write 'flikker toch op, man' on your tax form. They'll know what to do.

    • that's how Janne rolls.digdre1/5
      digdre, be a doll and tell me what that means.CanHasQBN2/5
      fuck offsureshot3/5
      < what it means.sureshot4/5
      ok, figured it was fuck-something. thanks, ss.CanHasQBN5/5
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    Dog-earJan 19, 11, 2:22 p.m. – Permalink
  • jfletcher

    Thanks! To answer a question above, I do have an offer from an agency. The main person is out of office right now for me to talk to, so thought I'd turn here since I'm impatient :P

    And I would be hired before I go there, so that helps with th 30% rule, I didn't understand that from reading. Thanks!

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    Dog-earJan 19, 11, 2:24 p.m. – Permalink
  • jfletcher

    30% rule seems interesting the more I read... but not sure it's good for my deal. I guess I'll talk more with the company in the next week and report back here :)

    • yeah mate, it helps heaps.. think it meant about an extra 800 euro a month for me..neue75_bold
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    Dog-earJan 19, 11, 2:27 p.m. – Permalink
  • VikingKingEleven

    The IRS has people that can help you out.

    My aunt travels oversees to help Americans with their taxes. She works for the IRS.

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    Dog-earJan 19, 11, 4:20 p.m. – Permalink
  • mikotondria3

    I think it's a fucking cheek that you'd still have to pay taxes to the irs while abroad because you're not getting any services from the US, what with BEING SOMEWHERE ELSE.
    Robbing bastards.

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    Dog-earJan 19, 11, 5:32 p.m. – Permalink
  • Weyland

    http://www.expatax.nl/incometaxe…

    • thanks! Was checking it out a bit earlier too... pretty good, still confused though :Pjfletcher
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    Dog-earJan 19, 11, 7:02 p.m. – Permalink
  • dMullins

    Make sure to look at this too. Not a bad plan if you've got $10k lying around.

    http://www.expatlaw.nl/dutch_ame…

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    Dog-earJan 19, 11, 8:52 p.m. – Permalink

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