Students Kicking OFF
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- DaveO0
I've not really seen too much UK news on the subject so it's difficult to see what the pundit /discussion angle is.
It's a tough argument. I only paid £3K in TOTAL for my tuition. I got a loan for £9K for living costs and that was it really. So i was lucky.
Increased tuition fees, in a way it would be a positive move. When I was at university there were a multitude of people there simply for the good time, inspired by Hollyoaks and the consensus that you MUST to go to university for the 'life experience', and the 'education is only a small part of the experience'. It's these people that cost the system its' money.
Degrees are no longer the valuable accessory they once were. Why? Every fucker's got one and few have any idea of what to do with it. An all too familiar trajectory is – Get a degree > work in a call centre while you're 'figuring out' what you want to do > wake up when you're 30 realising that you did 3 years of pointless education. I bet there are so many people out there more apt for the course but couldn't afford / weren't encouraged to go for it.
I also know plenty of people who didn't go to university and got stuck in from age 18. Super successful and intelligent, and prove that you don't NEED to go to university to become a fully rounded adult.
Education is a right. A degree (for the sake of having a degree) isn't.
- TheBlueOne0
"Charlie Gilmour, the son of Pink Floyd guitarist Dave Gilmour, was arrested today on suspicion of violent disorder and attempted criminal damage following his involvement in the student protests in central London on Thursday."
- Hombre_Lobo_20
i think its a very bad idea.
Making higher education more inaccessible creates a larger divide between the richer and the poorer / a larger divide between the classes.
The more inaccessible higher education is the more lower-income families there will be.
The more lower income families (and areas associated with these families) there are, the higher the crime rates will be. It has been proven time and again that there is a positive correlation between lower classes (socioeconomically speaking) and crime rates.
America is a good example, college cost far more in the US than university does in the UK (iirc) and to a lot of americans its impossible to get that amount of cash, and so they have little education and can only achieve low income jobs. Obviously they can work their way up, but naturally its a lot harder for someone with little education. And as a result there are a HUGE amount of uneducated americans that turn to crime. You only have to look at the overflowing prisons to see that.
i think these costs will only make the rich richer and the poor poorer.
- *cues news articles about how we can't compete with China/India and wonder whyTheBlueOne
- "HUGE amount of uneducated americans that" think Sarah Palin is a genius.TheBlueOne
- georgesIII0
- lol @ 3rd from right.
upside down shield, what a tool!Hombre_Lobo_2
- lol @ 3rd from right.
- lowimpakt0
the kids are on the ball
- lukus_W0
@maikel;
I see your point, but that was one person (who dropped a fire-extinguisher). I reckon if the police come to a scene expecting violence, they're probably more likely to see it ..
- yeh id agree, but maikel makes a point too...
delicate situation indeed.Hombre_Lobo_2
- yeh id agree, but maikel makes a point too...
- lukus_W0
Just watched a press conference on BBC news .. the situation sounds utterly deplorable. The police should be providing people with support, enabling protest to occur peacefully. If they arrive in riot gear - isn't that a provocation?
Also just heard David Cameron speak .. he sounds completely out of touch.
- no mate, if last time somebody dropped a fire extinguisher from a roof is simple common sense...maikel
- georgesIII0
At least Greeks, Frenchs, Irishs, Icelanders and Brits haven't been pussified,
I can't wait for more mayhem and chaos.
I'll be seating in front of my monitor in case anyone needs me :)- I await the sheep in America to mill about aimlessly, shrug and then watch Dancing With The StarsTheBlueOne
- TheBlueOne0
Welcome to the new Dark Ages, Motherfuckers.
- pinkfloyd0
hi
- MrMackem0
Quote from a 'student' today on the radio when asked about the polices ketteling tactics.
"they deserve what they get, they've kept us here for over two hours and we've had no food or water of the police".
Riot police with a selection of sandwiches is the answer to this.
- MrMackem0
Fucking students.
Go home. Get a wash. Cut your hair. And stop listening to The Levellers.
If you can't afford - tough shit. Thats life - you can't always get what you always want.
- -1000lukus_W
- Fuck off MrGrimlim
- you complete and utter moron.Hombre_Lobo_2
- maikel0
This is full of shite...
the cost of education rocketed up and what have you got on the cover page of the news? A pair of shitty royal twats who decided no better idea than cruising in a rolls roice in the middle of a violent riot...
i don't justify violence but...
(a) it was more than deserved for not even suspecting that 'something apparently was going on' with 50,000 students on the streets
(b) who the fuck cares? the news were that students will have to pay perhaps up to 9k a year to go to uni... that is about 30K of debt before having the chance of a professional job, let's say.
oh, and yeah... princess camila looks like a tranny.
- Stugoo0
Bout time.