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- hektor9110
i get 78,500 a year junior designer and freelance
- Name: Jim
Job Title: Sr. Web Designer and partner
Location: Detroit, MI
Salary/Income: 190k/year and some company benefitsd_rek - Salary/Income: 190k/year and some company benefitsd_rek
- where do you livescarabin
- @ hektor911
25k as a jr designer, 58,500 padded huh
TheeOtherJuan - is that in LA?hektor911
- Name: Jim
- d_rek0
Name: Jim
Job Title: Sr. Web Designer and partner
Location: Detroit, MI
Salary/Income: 190k/year and some company benefits
- brains0
$65 production, design $100, Illustration $110.
- TheeOtherJuan0
Note to self, lower rate by 25%, lower design standards 50%
- moIdero0
see 1:48
- Frosty_spl0
I read somewhere that the rate is proportional to what you make yearly. Say you make 50k per year, you should charge $50 per hour.
- cannonball19780
yeah seriously. that or you work a shitshow and they pay you to hate your job
- atomholc0
liars about what?
- scarabin0
i think people may be confusing hourly freelance vs hourly agency work.
freelance hourly of course is much higher than full-time hourly
- at least in my casescarabin
- yup, even inhouse freelance is high, the trick is dont go full time "but youll get medical" fuck medicalmoIdero
- your gonna cut my rate 70% for medical fuck that, ill buy cobra myselfmoIdero
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- Miguex0
well it all comes down to your skills to negotiate and current work flow.
I know I suck at negotiating so is no surprise I end up underselling myself most of the time, for all of you charging anything over $90, I admire you, I hope to get there someday:)
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- < can't someday be tomorrow? shit start today!jmilligan
- You are not underselling yourself.. don't believe them.. there is no one making $100-$200 per hour..as a freelancerBoz
- great developers charge between $65-$90 an hour.. really really great developers, I mean "invented internet" type of developers charge around $100-$120 per hour.. creatives and flash work from $65-$90 depending how good you are.Boz
- of developers charge around $100-$120 per hour.. creatives and flash work from $65-$90 depending how good you are.Boz
- this also depends on your areascarabin
- I dont think it depends on skill level, but how you negotiate.Miguex
- Boz0
Who's charing $100 or $200 an hour? That's ridiculous..
No wonder some of you don't have any work..
for quality work prices people charge are about $75-$85 for production.. everyone I know would laugh at you for $100 an hour..for $200 they would call you a psychiatrist.
$120-$200 is what agencies charge..
You need to learn to value yourself but realistically...
but hey if you can get $200 that's great..just don't lie here about to some poor saps.
- my $200 was a hooker joke. nobody else said that.
$100 is totally appropriate.monNom - $100 is on the really high end.. I'd like to see what a person who is charging $100 does..Boz
- I suggest everyone to not pull prices out of their asses but to read "Business Side of Creativity" for example so you can understand how the prices are formed.Boz
- you can understand how the prices are formed.Boz
- 100 is not high at all. unless you steal software and live at home.monNom
- for a freelancer for $100 per hour you better make magic. It's not at all realistic.. I would like to know how you get to $100 because there's a legitimate way how you come to the hourly rate. Just putting a $100 number out there doesn't say anything.Boz
- because there's a legitimate way how you come to the hourly rate. Just putting a $100 number out there doesn't say anything.Boz
- anything. You can charge $500 and then charge 5 hours on a 100 hour project.. People can value themselves out of the reality I suppose.Boz
- reality I suppose.Boz
- i knew SHITE designers i worked along side of making $90 per hour, and they fuckin suckedmoIdero
- then again this was temp to full (before the full) but sometimes lasting almost a yearmoIdero
- it all depends where you live. I do think $200 is bs unless your design director, again temp to full (at temp)moIdero
- hows work in AZ Boz?moIdero
- now that i think about it that agency i worked at paid shit, but it did pay more than some deservedmoIdero
- I don't work with AZ clients.. rarely.. I work with bigger agencies in general in LA, Chicago etc.. and it was slow but it's picking upBoz
- but it's picking up.Boz
- thats good to hear man, im currently selling my house in SF, moved to MX, i have fam in AZmoIdero
- if the work is decent, AZ might be an option, its just cheaper there vs CAmoIdero
- my $200 was a hooker joke. nobody else said that.
- Boz0
design is something different.. you usually charge design based on what needs to be done.. it's very hard to put hourly rate on creative..
changes and revisions sure, but usually for creative you agree on project worth overall.
I can bet most people here proclaiming they charge $200 don't charge shit but always agree on a fixed project with people and then come here bragging about how they charge $200.
I'd definitely like to see portfolios and work you have done for $200 per hour..
Please, show me cause I think all of us are idiots.. cause you are making $$$ like a lawyer.
- 1 example. Identity design job with various pieces - $8k took about 64hrs = $125/hr. Simple brochure $1k, 4.5hrs = $220/hrAmicus
- Boz0
and btw.. for those who charge less for production.. you are making a mistake.. you are better off charging less for creative and more for production because with creative you have more freedom and time to do other projects.. with production once you get into projects and you start building you are completely locked into project and you can't take on other things.. so you are losing more with production and why your production value needs to be higher.
- CanHazQBN0
$100 min.
- Josev0
$100 an hour
- akrokdesign0
less then $100/hr and more then $10/hr.
- moIdero0
less than $1000 pesos an hour and more than $500 pesos an hour.
in english thats between $40-$90 it all depends if I want the gig or not.
- depends how "fresa" the client is.akrokdesign
- lol i had to google that, really i dont speak spanish, im a gringo livin down heremoIdero
- Fresas are mostly stereotyped as frivolous, self-centered and pretty much unintelligent; mostly as zombies who swirl through life solely thinking about "frivolous matters".moIdero
- HA!moIdero
- I heard the term before down here never really knew what it meant, i just knew it wasnt really goodmoIdero
- let me tell you, cause i am swedish and know my mexico.akrokdesign
- if you're a "fresa" you have style, class and usually money but don't have to. they usually talk better also.akrokdesign
- ah ok,moIdero
- :-Dakrokdesign
- years ago, i though about moving down there. :-)akrokdesign
- lol all these is true.. welcomehektor911
- its mellow down here akro, im addicted. and its bloody cheap down here toomoIdero
- right now im in a 3b house 2 car garage, really nice neighborhood, $800 us/momoIdero
- my power bill about $45/mo vs my $550 /mo PG&E in the winter in SFmoIdero
- its great down here man, if i knew spanish it would be easier thoughmoIdero
- monNom0
@Boz I think defining what 'freelance' means to you is important when discussing rate.
For instance: A contractor working 3-6month gigs at various studios can charge far less then a sole proprietor of a design business with inherent risks and overhead.
For a one-man show winning their own business, you have 2000hrs to sell each year. 50% of those hours are going to be spent winning business, clerical work, and other cost centers. The amount of revenue eaten up by overhead (computers/software/professional services/internet/phone(s)/trans... etc.) might take another 30% (if you're lucky) and figure on 10% being unrecoverable (hours you have to eat, or just won't be paid for).
So that 100/hr turns into 60k for the year, but that's not all for you. some goes to the tax man, and if you're smart you sock away some profit to build your business, to rely on in slow times, get trained in newer tech, maybe hire an employee in a couple of years.
That 100/hr really earns you a modest wage unless you're working out of a coffee shop, and you can't do that forever.
Now for the hired gun who sits at a terminal without any of the overhead. sure $75 will do nicely. but that's apples and oranges. To me, freelance means selling yourself to clients, not working as a part-time employee.
- monNom, that's not how you calculate your rate.. I will show you later.. I will explain it in detail.. it's actually very well explained in numerous business books.Boz
- explained in numerous business books. Some of what you said is important yes, but there is actual math behind everything.Boz
- everything.Boz
- of course you would use real numbers rather than rough percentages, but the methodology is solid.monNom
- 100/hr = modest wage!!? Try telling that to the other 95% of society.Sneakybadger2
- you'll be lucky to keep 40k of it.
modest.monNom
- CALLES0
whats "hourly rate"?