McDonald's Mod?

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  • jfletcher0

    So the person fighting obesity is out of shape? :\ Did she used to think McD's was healthy? It's not super hard to eat generally healthy, it's just lots of America chooses not to... and to compound it, we drive everywhere, exercise rarely, and let political correctness get out of check (as a nation). I'm a fan of the food revolution thing, just don't get overboard.

  • SteveJobs0

    you all just skeerd of a bunch of preservatives. besides that, and yes, transfat, there's nothing inherently unhealthy about fast food. if you're educated enough to understand nutrition and what *your* body needs, it's not going to hurt you. fats are good, sugars are good, carbs are good, calories are good - an excess of any of these is bad. but excessiveness is specific to the individual.

    most people get fat eating this because of sedentary lifestyles, and/or excessive eating (doesn't take much to hit your cal/carb needs for the day on fast food).

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  • ifeltdave0

    You can keep putting bacon bits on a salad, but it ain't gonna turn into a barbecue.

  • lukus_W0

    The main reason some people still like McDonald's is because branding and advertising works. McDonald's has been aggressively marketed to most of us from an early age. It's become part of our psyches...

    It's a slick machine. They sell a commodity dirt cheap, and make sure it's available everywhere.

    But there's no denying it .. there's so much more to food than the laboratory synthesised muck they offer.

  • jfletcher0

    @SteveJobs - mostly agree. I don't think people realize that 2 large-ish means sfrom McD's will hit most poeples calorie needs... if not 1.5 means if you add a medium soda.

    Although while you may get calories, protiens, fats, etc, thay're not the best for you... it's not like a home made burger drained of fat on a whole wheat bun with fresh veggies. A lot of the nutrition has been stripped, but like you said, everything in moderation, once and a while is fine...

  • SteveJobs0

    ^ of course, but who eats burgers for the nutrients? that's why you get your RDA of fruits and veggies, take a multi, etc., and eat healthy the rest of the week. i rarely eat fast food any more (unless you count my wknd chipotle run), but if i'm gonna have burger or a pizza or anything else deemed 'unhealthy', i'm gonna go all out.

    • though all out for me isn't McD'sSteveJobs
    • I went to RedRobin last weekend, that was good going all out! Want it again!jfletcher
  • bjladams0

    after reading this- i took my kids down there for the first time to eat. ordered a couple happy meals and a burger- it wasn't like i remembered it from the college days. the 3 yr old had a nugget- then just wanted to play on the playground- the 1 yr old took a bite of the burger and then screamed.

    dont tell my wife... but she's been right all along with not letting me take them there.

  • dyspl0

    SteveJobs, I agree about the cal gained eating /cal lost exercising balance and that as you say "most people get fat eating this because of sedentary lifestyles, and/or excessive eating"

    BUT the problem with such food as fast food is what you mention right after : "doesn't take much to hit your cal/carb needs for the day on fast food"

    doesn't take much? really?
    big mac menu calories :
    Big Mac - 495 cal
    French fries, medium - 340 cal
    Coca Cola, 40cl - 125 cal

    If you don't take anything else, your lunch is about 1010 cal.
    A 85kg guy, running at 10km/h burns about 850 cal in a 1hour session (and the fat burned while exercising is mostly located where the muscle is exercised...).

    If you add a sundae (+345 cal), your lunch is about 1355 cal.
    About 1H30 running at 10km/h, just for one lunch.

    And we don't even mention the salt etc...

    Even if obesity comes from our lack of sport in our modern everyday life, Mc donalds food and other junk food are too rich anyway.

  • SteveJobs0

    yep, but you're sensationalizing this a tad, and understandibly so, as many have done so since super size me and fast food nation made this such a controversial topic.

    see when anyone defends fast food chains like mcdonalds, and blames obesity on the people, everyone comes out and starts talking about the lack of nutrition and how fattening their food is, and they almost always start picking the most sugar/sodium/calorie-dense items from the menu. the thing is though, this can be done almost anywhere, be it a fast food joint, a corporate chain, or a high-class, zagat-rated, $300/plate restaraunt. the reason fast food is such an easy target is because it's cheap and convenient and too many people eat it TOO MUCH - and THAT is the problem. however, this problem also occurs in the kitchen. just because you bought it from trader joe's or whole foods doesn't make it healthy. ever looked at the nutritional information on the box of your favorite granola? you might be surprised how many preservatives or sugar is in there.

    see, apart from diabetics or other one-offs, that mcd's meal you mention isn't going to hurt anyone. even an invalid who can barely lift a fork to his mouth will suffer little more than a 'food coma'.

    and this 85kg guy (~187lbs) has a calorie maintenance level of over 3000 calories, give or take, based on a relatively active lifestyle. hell, even if the moron eats that meal for breakfast lunch and dinner, one bad binge in a day is not going to affect his long-term health. it's eating like this day after day, not being mindful of what you are putting into your body that's going to hurt you in the long run.

    having said all that, the awareness the aformentioned books and films have raised is a good thing because they cause people to educate themselves so that they CAN make informed decisions about what they put in their bodies.

  • georgesIII0

    the sausage factory doesn't look at all like I thought it would

  • randommail0

    Real design would have been McDonald's commissioning a redesign of their bathrooms and furniture to be easier to maintain and clean.

    If you've been to a McDonald's in New York you know what I'm talking about. I don't care what the architecture of the place looks like if it can't be maintained as it was originally intended.

  • flashbender0

    "I love this salad, it's so cravable"

    Cravable?

    Fuck you, Candy.

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  • BaskerviIle0

    I think Starbucks has just as much to answer for, if not more than McDonalds.

    Almost everything is unhealthy in starbucks not to mention packed with sugar and cream.

    McD's targets breakfast, lunch and dinner and obviously it's all terrible fried, fatty poor quality food, but I almost see places like Starbucks as more of a threat and cause of obseity. It's everywhere and unlike mcdonald's there no real reason to go there, they don't target a specific meals, everything they sell is based around snacking between meals and it's almost all cakes, cookies, sugary/fatty drinks.

    Go to italy and have coffee and it bares no resemblance to the massive great vats of lukewarm sugary milk that SB serves up. No one needs a coffee that big, really? a pint of coffee?

    as homer simpson said on gaining extra weight to become obese, how did he do it?
    "I discovered a meal between breakfast and brunch"