Paper for Print
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- Atkinson
When you are working on a job, at what point do you decide your paper for print? Where do you select the paper - at the printers or before hand and ask the printer to source it?
I'm getting tired of cyclus / xerox recycled / mondi biotop, as much as I still like them I'd like to try something else.
- monospaced0
As early as possible in order to get sign-off from the client on the price quote. Talk to the printer to handle sourcing. Enjoy.
- Amicus0
Ideally you decide depending on the brand/concept. The decision may be in concert with the printer as they will have more knowledge on how a particular paper handles on the press and more significantly any specialty finishes you may want.
The stock is very important to the feel of the finished job. Using standard stock is only for the cheapest, most mundane work in my opinion.
- Josev0
It sounds like you don't have a lot of experience with selecting/using papers. Contact your local paper house(s) and get (free) swatch cases and printed samples. They may have some samples with information about printability, varnishes, etc.
- or, just talk to the printermonospaced
- I'm tired of posting with asshole comments like this. Fuck you, idiot.Josev
- I'm not an idiot. I'm just saying that talking to the printer is easier than going through swatch booksmonospaced
- I didn't say he shouldn't talk to the printer. If the dude's interested in paper it would be good to get more informed about what's available.Josev
- about what's available.Josev
- suremonospaced
- Josev0
"or, just talk to the printer"
Uhm, actually dude, it would be good for him to both talk to the printer AND look into what's available in paper lines. For both current and future projects. What's the problem with this suggestion? So you're saying that moving forward he should always design with a vague idea about what to print his job on? And then have a printer tell him what he should be using? It wouldn't hurt to know what's available in textures, surfaces finishes, colors, etc.
- got your knickers in a twist, I see...no need to start throwing out insultsmonospaced
- Of course he can go through swatch booksmonospaced
- knickers in a twist- that made my day.bjladams
- Atkinson0
WW3 has begun haha.
I have limited experience and have been using fairly standard stock for zines / books for a while. I'm looking at getting a couple of photo books made. I might well stick with Cyclus Offset as it does suit the job well. I've ordered a few swatches from various places and a few samples from indigo printers which I've not used before.- that should never have turned into an argument up there, good luckmonospaced
- gramme0
I spec paper near the beginning, often before the design is started, but after I receive some sort of brief. Knowing the purpose and audience of the piece helps narrow the scope of possibilities regarding paper. And as someone said above, making a decision regarding paper early on will give printers adequate time to put quotes together, and will establish a clear budget for your client.