YouTube endorses Flash
- Started
- Last post
- 17 Responses
- gabe
this blog post is from a week ago so it may be old news, but for those who haven't seen it yet it's an interesting read...
http://apiblog.youtube.com/2010/…
personally, i'm happy to see flash getting support from a such a major web presence.
- ernexbcn0
Flash Player it's also embedded inside Chrome as part of the download now
- lambsy0
isn't that like saying toyota endorses wheels?
- airey0
considering the iphone and ipad have a youtube app as part of the standard install it makes little difference to the flash / no flash apple bastard attitude / argument no?
- using Apple proprietary crap or Adobe's is really no improvement in my mind. At least Adobe lets me program using the tools I want.zarkonite
- with whatever tools I want / is better.zarkonite
- there is a world outside of apple yes?lodef
- There isn't outside Adobe thoughraf
- certainly is but find me a client that doesn't seem to care about the iphone or ipad. it's a nightmare.airey
- gabe0
i think you're all downplaying the importance of having a site like youtube behind flash technology. if youtube decided to fully support HTML5 and the video tag (foregoing flash), i think a whole wave of online media providers would follow suit...
- iCanHasQBN0
Well, Youtube is Google. And Google's phone/platform compete's against iPhone. Why wouldn't they support Flash? Right??
- BannedKappa0
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2…
'Frash' Brings Adobe Flash to Apple iPad
Program runs only on jail-broken iPads in Safari Mobile through a compatibility layer; there are plans to port it to the iPhone as well.
- ESKEMA0
Flash AND HTML5, side by side, are the future of robust apps and content delivery. Why are WE, designers and developers taking sides??? we should be embracing both and be happy that they can coexist happily
- Because some people are just taking side because steve jobs said to.Pixter
- Pixter, your point sounds like your taking sides against jobs so it's kind of self defeating.airey
- making fun of people taking sides while taking sides doing so is slightly ironic.airey
- I'm against taking sides just because someone told to. I'm willing to code flash AND html5.Pixter
- I disagree, I think Flash will eventually become redundant, but not until HTML5 becomes a viable replacement.ukit
- I mean, why wouldn't it? Is there some emotional attachment people have to Flash or somethin?;)ukit
- airey0
ESKEMA - you're totally right. i don't think anyone here, or at least most here are taking a side per-ce. more putting the arguments forward that both schools of thought would be looking at this from. obviously this effects a lot of us, i know i've spent fucking hours learning flash since it was hotdog and would prefer it not become completely redundant. saying that, if it turns out it is less quality tech then it probably should set sail. either way, it's worth keeping in front of the issue i guess.
- monoboy0
HTML5 isn't the magic bullet. It opens up all kinds of issues with different codecs and browser support. It's taken MS 10 years to build a browser that's almost standards compliant.
I think it's going to be a while yet before flash looses the video battle.
Read this...
http://diveintohtml5.org/video.h…
- Rand0
what did I miss?
- airey0
depends how long the coma was.
arnie is a governor now. crazy huh.
- ukit0
I didn't read the YouTube blog post as an endorsement, just a common sense statement of where things are regarding the two technologies. While people might not like to hear this, I don't think there's much question HTML5 will eventually replace Flash for most things. At the same time, even the most ardent advocates of HTML5 aren't trying to convince anyone that 100% of the web - or even 10% of it - is ready to make that transition today.
So I thought the YouTube post just sort of matter of factly went through the areas where HTML5 needs to catch up before it would be feasible for them to truly replace Flash entirely (which, when it happens, would be a pretty huge blow to Flash considering YT makes up something like 40% of ALL video on the web). I think, BTW, people who do Flash for a living can relax slightly because it's clearly gonna take a while, and even then, has little bearing on, say, marketing sites done in Flash on other uses of Flash. At the same time, I didn't see anything in here that was technologically impossible.
- yeah i basically read it as "HTML5 can't do everything we want to do but flash can"lodef
- kpl0
So, in total, it's just Google posting another post on one of their numerous blogs, not to add anything new, but to prop up Adobe's ego. They'll need one every now and then apparently, just to remind them they're not replacing Flash with HTML5 in the future, even though it's blatantly obvious they are.
- Pixter0
The video issue is a matter of time, but this point is the one I agree the most:
"Encapsulation + Embedding
Flash Player's ability to combine application code and resources into a secure, efficient package has been instrumental in allowing YouTube videos to be embedded in other web sites."- matter of time as well. Really, it's not that hard to put a web app into an html file and put it in a zip with its dependencies.kpl