How easy is Wordpress?
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- sputnik20
if the client wants anything other than the wordpress basics it can be a bit of a pain. "fiddly" is a good word for it. i've used joomla and ditto.
- Ranger0
shhh It's easy - but we're not supposed to let on...
- ukit0
Nowadays 5 year olds are probably hacking away at Wordpress on their laptops while they got Spongebob on in the background.
Anyone who decides that there is an arbitrary point where things are "too hard" for them to learn is selling themselves short. The main question is just do you have the time to do it. If you are already familiar with things like HTML, and how setting up a site on a server works on a basic level, it should take you all of five minutes. If you don't know that stuff, you may want to think twice, but then why would you consider any kind of web design job to begin with?
- graham4140
Easy like sunday morning. ahhh ahhh ahhh ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh dun dun dun dun
- cramdesign0
Easy if you are a computer code kind of guy who laughs at someone calling HTML "programming". Difficult if you are one of those guys who calls HTML "programming".
- acescence0
you don't have to split your theme into header, footer, and body, that's just how it's typically done as most people reuse the header and footer on every page. you can have it all in one file if you'd like, or 20 files, it's up to you.
read thru the theming docs on the wordpress site to get a better understanding of how it works. a theme can consist of just one file, or you can have separate files for every type of page, or you can check the requested page yourself and load templates under all sorts of different conditions, as well as have templates selectable on a per-page basis from the admin panel.
i'll say it again, if you're thinking limitations, you just haven't completely grasped what is possible yet. read up on conditional tags, creating your own loops and multiple loops, setting up hooks and filters and the whole plugin API.
- noneck0
You could always do the site design and outsource the HTML slicing to some place that will also build a WP Template for you. Build in the cost into your fees.
- hmm it's a yoga studio, not a pharmaceutical company. I doubt she'll even pay in money.Projectile
- but that's ok, I've always accepted magic mushrooms as payment.
(kidding about the first bit :P)Projectile
- 23kon0
Find out what the client wants first before promising any Wordpress site.
Once you know what they want then go on the hunt for a Template that is similar to what they want to do and could even be a similar design.
Then its only wee tweaks you have to do to structure and design rather than having the fiddlyness of adding extra functionality.I did a site for my dad using wordpress by tweaking a template to suit.
Got a client whos after a personal site for herself.
I started last year on it and just grabbed a template that was nice and tweaked the design.
Now she wants loads of extra functionality and i've had to tell her it isnt possible with wordpress and that we'd either have to build her a site with our own CMS or do a Drupal job.
- spraycan0
be careful with comments here , they're always like : "ye go for it man", "ye everything is cool"
- Projectile0
thanks for all the advice!!!
yeah I really ought to try give it a quick go, but just haven't had 20 mins to spare to be honest. (fuck i havent even had time to watch this thread!!) Will try have a twiddle today during lunch. And yes I'll just drill it into her from the start that it will be limited to the template we use and I'll have to tell her a lot no "no can do" once it's built.
One more thing.. is it simple enough to embed flash elements?
...and is it simple to embed youtube/vimeo vids? (i imagine this being easier than flash)
- applepirate0
been messing with wordpress all weekend.. now im studying up on Ruby+rails(radiantCMS)...
god this stuff is great and all but i sure miss my flash timeline :(
- mrghost0
i heard she was a total slut
- FallowDeer0
I always thought the same and worried I wouldnt have the time to learn it but its really simple to do the easy stuff.
Some websites have different function so you may find yourself trying to hack around WP and working around its limitations
I also gave this pdf book a try http://rockablepress.com/books/r…
- airey0
there's a million commercial themes that take very little to repurpose or use a developer to build from scratch using your design. really really affordable.
- aanderton0
I've always been tempted to learn how to skin word press. Never really got round to learning how to though. ideally I'd just like to be able to take my html design then drop the code in here and there. Looking through a few tuts though it seems you have to split you're page into a header, main section, and footer part. Then have separate php files for all 3? Is this the case?
Sorry to thread hijack btw.
- no no, hijack away this is all good info.. even your question!!Projectile
- You don't "have" to do it that way. You only need style.css and index.php if you want real simple.cramdesign
- But you will want more than just those two.cramdesign
- acescence0
anyway... regarding your project projectile, if you get stuck on something and need some help, shoot me an email, i'll be happy to help out.
- Atkinson0
very
- boobs0
It's so easy the clients can do it himself!
Which is something you have to guard against relentlessly!!