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- dasmeteor0
What is this ?
http://www.facebook.com/product_…
- lukus_W0
Yeah, FB is compatible (functionally / aesthetically) with business .. which gives it a lot more longevity - also it's created an ecosystem of products which depend on it (via the API) which further extends the likelihood that it'll stick around.
- mg330
lukas_W,
I wonder about that often - if Facebook will eventually die like Myspace. One of the powerful things about Facebook, to me, is it's maturity over MySpace. I'm on Facebook with a pretty decent number of people in my age range - late 20s, early 30s, "adults" if you will. There's something about the basic layout that doesn't scream "teendom" like MySpace did/does, even if you don't mess with your background or use themes.
Facebook definitely introduced far more into that type of social networking environment than MySpace ever has, and I prefer the Facebook functionality far more than MySpace. I like that Facebook is built around the ability to see what my friends are doing quickly and easily; that wasn't so easy on MySpace.
- I read that FaceBook are introducing a micro-payments system soon - which could really change the face of the web.lukus_W
- lukus_W0
Will be interesting to see if Facebook eventually dies like MySpace .. but I guess once a company has the backing of an entire suite of industries - it's not necessarily going to have to ever die?
- ukit0
It is a big deal but not a black and white one. What you say about the customer having less leverage because the product is free is an interesting point. On the other hand, it's also far easier for the customer to leave if they're unhappy. Much easier than buying a new car or switching cable providers, say. Remember MySpace? Me neither.
- You can't really leave though - because you invest so much in the network.lukus_W
- It's like saying that an iPhone owner can switch to android (and therefore have free-market led choice)lukus_W
- ... while it's possible - in reality it would never happen due to the 24 month contract and initial financial investment.lukus_W
- 10g00
I need more design cohorts
- mg330
- lukus_W0
People who have access to what you think about, what you care about and what you do on-line, hold a great deal of power over you.
I don't think that there are dark forces at work, plotting against users. I do think that these companies care more about profit and couldn't really give a fuck about what's beneficial to an individual user. When you're dealing with millions of users, it's natural to view a user as a commodity. If you view your users as a commodity - you work according to incentives and tend to disregard anything that isn't conducive to success.
I think the fact these sites are free is a major challenge - because it removes a basic principle that traditionally works for the benefit of the consumer .. we can no longer vote with our cash - and we can't easily challenge decisions that we're unhappy with because we haven't actually paid for anything. That's not to say we don't pay - our attention makes these companies rich. To think they make money from advertising is far too simplistic. Facebook's value is in its database.
It is a big deal - I reckon anyone who disagrees is naive.
- vitamins0
I sent everyone here a friends request
- ukit0
But what does that really mean? People always assume there's some ominous motive behind these things, when at the end of the day companies just want to sell ads and the government probably just wants better intelligence on terrorists and possibly bringing down a child predator or two in a Chris Hansen style sting operation.
The government already has so much info on all of us that knowing what album we're listening to this week or which girl we scored with last weekend is pretty trivial, assuming they gave a shit about you to begin with:D
- i couldnt agree more, what do we, the average joe, have to actually hide? except CALLESwhereRI
- Exactly. Other than CALLES, very little.ukit
- "What do we have to hide" - by revealing everything, you're allowing yourself to be owned.lukus_W
- meh who cares, owned how exactly?whereRI
- All the stuff on my Facebook is something I would share with anyone. So how am I being owned?404NotFound
- nuggler0
As it grows, Facebook is working more closely with CIA and govt surveillance systems -- http://social.venturebeat.com/20… -- but whattaya gonna do
- ukit0
He's not making billions, Facebook operated in the red for most of its existence and just last year began turning a profit.
Not sayin you're wrong about the overall model, but it's also nothing to be afraid of, that's how advertising works on the web. Ever notice how ads in Gmail match the messages you send?
- zukerburg is worth like 4 billion and again its more than adverts we're talking aboutDodecahedron
- i am talking about anywayDodecahedron
- That's based on the valuation of the company, not off any profits they are making off dataminingukit
- inkpink0
MZ wants Google blood.
- Dodecahedron0
it has little to do with your specific life or targeted adverts. facebook collects everything and processes everything no matter what and shares the processed info with marketers and the cia etc they make billions this way. Zuckerburg is making billions with datamining.
- if worried about this, you have a choice to terminate your accountMeeklo
- so facebook gets to cohort with CIA and make billions with private data and i should turn my backDodecahedron
- Meeklo0
why is this privacy thing such a big deal anyways,
you should be aware that whatever you post online can AND WILL be seen by other people, so pretending to be upset because your profile gallery named "Check out how trashed I got at the office party" might be seen by colleges.If you are sort concern about these issues you shouldn't be posting shit online anyways.
- jhey0