Richard Dawkins: I will arrest Pope Benedict XVI
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- kingkong0
So we arrest the Pope and he gets convicted of a cover up. A year in jail for perverting the course of justice... Then what?
There will be another Pope and the Catholic church will carry on existing... Some reforms for sure, but more or less unchanged as it has been for 2000 years...
I guess if you dislike the Pope you see it as an institutional cover up and if you're a catholic, an establishment which hunt.
At the end of the day the church isn't going to disappear over night, and any reform that will happen will happen within. There are 1.166 billion baptized Catholics worldwide, most of which kind of like where it is...
If it wasn't Dawkins but lets say an actually abusee who was trying to arrest the Pope I'd have more sympathy. But Dawkins and Hitchens have a vested interest in seeing him defrocked.
At the end of the day what they really want to happen is for the Pope not to set foot on UK soil. We have had huge separation of the church from the State in this country, and the atheist argument has to all intents won, and they are scared that its creeping back.
- and there are nearly 7 billion people worldwide...they are grossly outnumberedmonospaced
- indeed, but I doubtthey give a monkeys what atheists, muslims, hindus and buddists think.kingkong
- I don't think Dawkins really said he was going to arrest the Popeukit
- I'm not sure about this whole arresting this, just sayin it's pretty clear the Pope IS involved in this personallyukit
- kingkong0
I thought this one of the more balanced commentaries...
It best explains my point of view I suppose, which isnt that different from most here:
"Most priests are not wicked. Catholics, in my experience, whether lay or clerical tend to be rather good people: gentle, spiritually aware, concerned for others, kept decently humble by the explicitness of Confession. But their Church has betrayed them, because it fossilised into a culture of hierarchy and unquestioning obedience, at the expense of individual conscience and intelligence. This is the fault line that may bring it down.
I don’t want that, even if Hitchens and Dawkins do. But in making those who trusted it complicit in concealment, the Catholic Church has done a great and terrible wrong to its faithful. And I fear the Vatican still hasn’t grasped the full corruption of that."
- georgesIII0
dawkins said he didn't say it, but at least Hitchens is honest
- Hitchens is looking more and more like hannibal lecter with every interviewrosskemp
- Mimio0
Fantastic, hang them all high.
- ukit0
Replace "The Pope" with "L. Ron Hubbard."
Do you still think he deserves some kind of special treatment?
- sure. ron seems like a good guy. give the guy a break.iCanHasQBN
- ukit0
How about David Koresh?
- ukit0
Why are some religions more equal than others?
- CALLES0
i guess richie wants to go like this
- BaskerviIle0
So in the Pope's first speech on entering the UK he manages to essentially align atheists with Nazis, good job benedict! what a twat, especially seeing as how he was a member of the hitler youth
"... I also recall the regime’s attitude to Christian pastors and religious who spoke the truth in love, opposed the Nazis and paid for that opposition with their lives. As we reflect on the sobering lessons of the atheist extremism of the twentieth century, let us never forget how the exclusion of God, religion and virtue from public life leads ultimately to a truncated vision of man and of society and thus to a “reductive vision of the person and his destiny” "
full transcript here:
http://richarddawkins.net/articl…
- WhiteFace0
Great speech from Stephen Fry on Catholicism: http://www.dailymotion.com/video…
- stephen fry for president of the world.
the only person with any sense these days.Hombre_Lobo - (and Hitchens....and Bill Maher, and Dawkins, and Sam Harris, and Colbert, and John Stewart..)mikotondria3
- Holy Shit. Amazing Speechplash
- Wow. Wow :)stewdio
- stephen fry for president of the world.
- RW0
^ love that
- mikotondria30
fucking pope.
Fuck off, you slimy little sod.
- CALLES0
maybe he is into handcuffs