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Last post: 2 years, 2 months ago | Thread started: Mar 18, 10, 8:01 a.m.
- Thesocialgospel
As I have said, I am talking about the trend in design recently of the designer as the artist, where there is no client, and also the trend of capitalizing off of the consumers love for a particular place or feeling, instead of communication. HoS are just one of many in recent months to create "posters" advertising something that they werent commissioned to do. I have seen this in the Star Wars travel posters that were recently a huge deal on the internet, as well as the recent trend in redesigning movie posters, and then capitalizing on the pre-existing fame of that movie.
- Dog-earMar 18, 10, 8:25 a.m. – Permalink
- ismith
"...capitalizing off of the consumers love for a particular place or feeling, instead of communication..."
You do realize that in "art", things only "communicate" with certain people, right? And that often this is the whole point? And that sometimes those people want to then own this thing that speaks to them?
- Dog-earMar 18, 10, 8:28 a.m. – Permalink
- Thesocialgospel
ismith- not at all, I am saying there is a trend in design lately that I think needs to be addressed.
I guess I am not being concise enough, or citing my arguments well, so I will just drop it because I wanted to make a thread that had productive discourse, but it swayed off track almost immediately.
- Dog-earMar 18, 10, 8:29 a.m. – Permalink
- rascuache
Christ on a bike...
How can anyone even "address" this? What are you gonna round up the "offenders" and slap their wrists for having the gall to express themselves and try and make an extra buck while they're at it.
Seems like you're either not getting paid enough, not very inspired, or both.
Can't think of any other reason why someone would be pissed over anyone else making some money.
- Dog-earMar 18, 10, 8:32 a.m. – Permalink
- discoduro
I don't understand where having a skill and making money from your trade became a bad thing. I mean ultimately it's job and we all do it to make money. You think Da Vinci didn't get paid or any other great designer? So I don't get what's wrong with creating something in your style and then selling it to people who like it to make a living.
*steps off soapbox
- Dog-earMar 18, 10, 8:32 a.m. – Permalink
- ismith
"I have been increasingly annoyed by the "designer as artist" trend that has been arising as of late, Heads of State arent the first to do this, but I think it should be addressed. Anyone else annoyed by this?"
No, I am not annoyed by this. Also, I think it is ridiculous to be annoyed by this "issue" as long as it extends beyond simply not liking the pieces, which you are well within your rights to do.
- Dog-earMar 18, 10, 8:35 a.m. – Permalink
- Thesocialgospel
I think alot of people in this thread are mistaking my comments as some sort of slander against HoS, who I have repeatedly said have great work, and who I am certainly inspired by. So I am going to take personal attacks against me in place of logical arguments as a sign that the attacker doesnt have a real argument. I believe it was Rudy Vanderlans for Emigre who said the best way you can show you care about design is to critique it.
- Dog-earMar 18, 10, 8:40 a.m. – Permalink
- d_rek
With respect to the fact that you have given us some critique of HoS's work, you still haven't really given us a reason why we shouldn't get paid to do the things we love. That's really what is at issue now isn't it?
You have this notion that you can't put a price on 'artistic expression' and that recently, a trend towards selling personal projects to a demanding public is unsettling and annoying.
Really now, where the fuck do you get off telling us that we are outside of our moral boundaries to sell our own personal artwork at a reasonable price when there is obviously a market for such thing?
C'mon dude, be fucking reasonable here. You're making yourself out to be the biggest D-bag right now.
- Dog-earMar 18, 10, 8:45 a.m. – Permalink
