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- whatthefunk3
I will say, when viewing these icons as favicons in browser tabs in dark mode - they do hit differently. I'd say context and scale matter too...
- calendar, whatever, maps, whatever, same whatever again, is that a video camera?, aircondidtion?uan
- Bennn-1
No one is talking about their event? lol
I ordered their new Google TV thing, looks useful
- hey google stop with the ads about the products in the show i'm watching on tvsted
- allow me save you 30mins and summarize the contents of this video in one endless gif
https://i.gifer.com/…sted - more shitty spy tech. fuck off google.hans_glib
- utopian0
Notice of Class Action Settlement re Google Plus – Your Rights May Be Affected
You are not being sued. This notice affects your rights. Please read it carefully.
On June 10, 2020, the Honorable Edward J. Davila of the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California, granted preliminary approval of this class action Settlement and directed the litigants to provide this notice about the Settlement. You have received this notice because Google’s records indicate that you may be a Settlement Class Member, and you may be eligible to receive a payment from the Settlement. Please visit www.GooglePlusDataLitigation.com… for more information. The Final Approval Hearing on the adequacy, reasonableness, and fairness of the Settlement will be held at 9:00 am on November 19, 2020 in San Jose Courthouse, Courtroom 4, 5th Floor located at 280 South 1st Street, San Jose, CA 95113. You are not required to attend the Final Approval Hearing, but you are welcome to do so at your own expense.
Summary of Litigation
Google operated the Google+ social media platform for consumers from June 2011 to April 2019. In 2018, Google announced that the Google+ platform had experienced software bugs between 2015 and 2018, which allowed app developers to access certain Google+ profile field information in an unintended manner. Plaintiffs Matthew Matic, Zak Harris, Charles Olson, and Eileen M. Pinkowski thereafter filed this lawsuit asserting various legal claims on behalf of a putative class of Google+ users who were allegedly harmed by the software bugs (“Class”). Google denies Plaintiffs’ allegations, denies any wrongdoing and any liability whatsoever, and believes that no Class Members, including the Plaintiffs, have sustained any damages or injuries due to the software bugs.
Summary of Settlement Terms
Settlement Fund: Under the Settlement, Google will pay $7.5 million which will be used to fund: (1) Class Member Settlement payments; (2) attorneys’ fees not to exceed 25% of the Settlement Fund and costs and expenses not to exceed $200,000.00; (3) four service awards to the Class Representatives in an amount not to exceed $1,500 each for their services on behalf of the Settlement Class and for a general release of all claims they may have against Google; (4) administration fees and costs; and, if necessary, (5) cy pres distribution of any residual funds. No portion of the Settlement Fund can be returned to Google.
Amount of Payments: Class Members who submit a Valid Claim may receive a pro rata share of the Net Settlement Fund up to a cash payment of $12.00 depending on the number of claimants. Each Class Member can submit only one claim. Any funds remaining in the Net Settlement Fund after distribution(s) to Class Members will be distributed to Cy Pres Recipients that have been selected by a neutral third party and approved by the Court.
Method of Payment: The payments above for Class Members who submit a Valid Claim will be made by Electronic Payment (Paypal or Digital Check).
Your Options Under the Settlement
Option 1 - Submit a Claim Form to Be Eligible for a Cash Payment
If you submit a Valid Claim by October 8, 2020, you may receive a payment. You will also give up your rights to sue Google and/or any other released entities regarding the legal claims in this case.
Option 2 - Opt Out of the Settlement
This is the only option that allows you to sue Google and/or other released parties on your own regarding the legal claims in this case. You will not receive a payment from the Settlement. The deadline for excluding yourself is October 8, 2020.
Option 3 - File an Objection with the Court
Write to the Settlement Administrator about why you do not like the Settlement. The deadline for objecting is October 8, 2020. These Objections will be shared with the Court. If you object to the Settlement, you will be bound by the Settlement’s terms and will not be allowed to exclude yourself from the Settlement; you will lose the right to sue Google and/or any other released entities regarding the legal claims in this case.
Option 4 - Do Nothing
If you do nothing, you will not receive any payment. You will be bound by the Settlement’s terms and will lose the right to sue Google and/or any other released entities regarding the legal claims in this case.
Additional Information
How do I know if I am part of the Settlement Class?
The Settlement Class is defined as: “all persons within the United States who (a) had a consumer Google+ account for any period of time between January 1, 2015 and April 2, 2019, and (2) had their non-public Profile Information exposed as a result of the software bugs Google announced on October 8, 2018 and December 10, 2018. Excluded from the Settlement Class are (a) Google and its officers, directors, employees, subsidiaries, and Google Affiliates; (b) all judges and their staffs assigned to this case and any members of their immediate families; (c) the Parties’ counsel in this litigation; and (d) any Excluded Class Member.”
What are the terms of the Settlement?
Under the Settlement, Google has agreed to create a Settlement Fund of $7,500,000.
This Settlement Fund will provide compensation to Settlement Class Members, pay for notice and administration costs, provide for any approved Service Awards to the Class Representatives who filed the case, and compensate the attorneys for any approved fee, cost, and expense awards. If the Settlement is finally approved, Settlement Class Members will be prevented from bringing any further claims against Google for any conduct relating to the software bugs affecting Google+ profile fields.
How will the Settlement Fund be distributed?
The lawyers for the Settlement Class (“Class Counsel”) will ask the Court to approve the following payments from the Settlement Fund:
The costs of providing notice and administration of the Settlement;
Service Awards to each of the Class Representatives, not to exceed $1,500 each, as compensation for their active participation in the case on behalf of the Settlement Class;
Class Counsel’s compensation for the time and effort incurred litigating the case, which will not exceed 25% of the Settlement Fund, and costs and expenses they incurred not to exceed $200,000.00;
Payments to Settlement Class Members who file timely and Valid Claim Forms according to the Plan of Allocation outlined below; and
Any residual funds remaining after payments to Settlement Class Members will be distributed to Approved Cy Pres Recipients as approved and directed by the Court.
More information regarding the Settlement, including the Settlement Agreement, can be found at the Settlement Website, www.GooglePlusDataLitigation.com…...How can I get a Settlement Payment?
If you are a Settlement Class Member and would like to receive a Settlement Payment, you must submit a Claim Form no later than October 8, 2020.
You may complete the Claim Form online at www.GooglePlusDataLitigation.com…... or you may mail your Claim Form to the following address:
Google Plus Data Litigation, 1650 Arch Street, Suite 2210, Philadelphia, PA, 19103
If you do not file a Claim Form, you will not receive a payment. Note that for each Valid Claim, the payment method will be the Electronic Payment method specified on the Claimant’s Claim Form.
How much will I receive from the Settlement?
The Plan of Allocation provides for Settlement Payments to Claimants as follows: The Net Settlement Fund shall be allocated to Claimants on a pro rata basis up to an initial maximum distribution of US$5.00 per Claimant. If there are insufficient funds to pay claimants $5.00 based on the number of claimants, the payment to each claimant will be reduced pro ratably. If sufficient funds remain after calculation of the aggregate initial maximum distribution of US$5.00 per Claimant, the allocation shall be recalculated on a pro rata basis up to a maximum distribution of up to US$12.00 per Claimant. For clarity, the maximum Settlement Payment to be made to any single Claimant shall not exceed US$12.00.
How do I get out of the Settlement?
If you do not want to be part of the Settlement, you must submit an Opt-Out Form no later than October 8, 2020. You may obtain the Opt-Out Form at www.GooglePlusDataLitigation.com…... Your completed Opt-Out Form may be submitted via e-mail to ... or via postal mail to the following address: Google Plus Data Litigation, Attn: Opt-Out Requests, P.O. Box 58220, Philadelphia, PA, 19102. If you opt-out of the Settlement, you will not be bound by the Settlement Agreement, you will not receive a Settlement Payment, and you will not be allowed to object to the Settlement.
Do I have a lawyer in this case?
Yes. The Court has appointed Class Counsel to represent you and other Settlement Class Members. In this case, Class Counsel are John A. Yanchunis and Ryan J. McGee of the law firm Morgan & Morgan Complex Litigation Group; Clayeo C. Arnold and Joshua H. Watson of the law firm Clayeo C. Arnold Professional Law Corporation; and Franklin D. Azar and Margeaux R. Azar of the law firm Franklin D. Azar & Associates, P.C. You will not be charged for these lawyers. If you want to be represented by another lawyer, you may hire one at your own expense.
How will the lawyers be paid?
The attorneys representing the Settlement Class have not yet received any payment for their legal services or any reimbursement of the costs or out-of-pocket expenses they have incurred. Class Counsel plans to ask the Court to award attorneys’ fees from the Settlement Fund not to exceed $1,875,000 which is 25% of the Settlement Fund, and reimbursement of costs and expenses in the approximate amount of $200,000.
How do I object to the Settlement?
If you are a Settlement Class Member and do not opt out of the Settlement Class, you may object to any aspect of the Settlement. This includes commenting on the applications for Class Representative Service Awards or the award of attorneys’ fees, costs, and expenses.
Your completed Objection must be submitted no later than October 8, 2020 online at www.GooglePlusDataLitigation.com…... or via postal mail to the following address:
Google Plus Data Litigation, Attn: Settlement Objections, P.O. Box 58220, Philadelphia, PA, 19102.
Any Objection must be in writing and must:
Clearly identify the case name and number, In re Google Plus Profile Litigation, Case No. 5:18-cv-06164-EJD;
Include the full name, address, telephone number, and email address of the person objecting;
Include the full name, address, telephone number, and email address of the Objector's counsel (if the Objector is represented by counsel);
State whether the objection applies only to the objector, to a specific subset of the Class, or to the entire Class, and also state with specificity the grounds for the Objection; and
Be verified by an accompanying declaration submitted under penalty of perjury or a sworn affidavit.
Settlement Class Members who fail to submit timely written Objections in the manner specified above will waive their right to object to any aspect of the Settlement.Do I need to attend the Final Fairness Hearing?
No. Class Counsel will answer any questions the Court may have. However, any Settlement Class Member who timely submits an Objection has the option to appear and request to be heard at the Final Fairness Hearing, either in person or through their counsel. If you choose to make an Objection through an attorney or have an attorney appear at the Final Fairness Hearing on your behalf, you will be solely responsible for paying that attorney’s fees.
How can I get more information?
This Notice summarizes the Settlement. It does not describe all of its details. For the precise terms and conditions of the Settlement, please see the Settlement Agreement and related documents. Additional information about the Settlement, including a copy of the Settlement Agreement, may be obtained by:
Visiting the Settlement Website at www.GooglePlusDataLitigation.com…...
Contacting the Settlement Administrator toll-free by phone at 1-833-509-1101 or by email at ...
Accessing the Court docket in this case through the Court’s Public Access to Court Electronic Records (PACER) system at ecf.cand.uscourts.gov; or
Visiting the office of the Clerk of the Court for the United States District Court for the Northern District of California, 280 South 1st Street, 2nd Floor, San Jose, CA 95113, between 9:00 am and 4:00 pm, Monday through Friday, excluding Court holidays.
Please do not telephone the Court or the Court Clerk’s Office to inquire about the Settlement.- hey, it's that email i mentioned the other dayimbecile
- So...$12? lolyuekit
- $12 maximummonospaced
- drgs-2
Black-owned businesses can now be highlighted in Google Search and Maps
https://www.inputmag.com/culture…
It's cool if it helps these businesses.
It's not cool if certain people can use the same feature to avoid them- Hmm, I wonder if history can inform us on how these things will turn outGnash
- ... or target themimbecile
- this seems incredibly backwards.inteliboy
- Exactly, something like this : https://live.staticf…Salarrue
- This might trigger casual racists and misogynists for sure.monospaced
- https://www.etsy.com…imbecile
- oh the beautiful tools of segregation.sted
- @mono, casual racists will love this. They will be far from triggered by thisGnash
- drgs-1
Google offers search suggestions now?
- Woah there, back up a bit - what exactly where you looking for?!Nairn
- The usual stuff
https://i.imgur.com/…drgs - So you got caught up in the Win10 Search fuck up the other day? https://www.theregis…Nairn
- We should have a share and compare thread for searches. I love the range on yours here - from the prosaic to 'bears cocaine gif' and 'simpsons kiss'. +1Nairn
- I was close to reformatting my hard drive and tearing my hair outdrgs
- Prime NOW!instrmntl
- Are you telling me you'd be ok with wet cows?CyBrainX
- Bennn-1
How the Hell can these cost 220$CAD .... I mean... wtf
- kingsteven5
Old web developer yells at cloud moment here...
Very nearly got stung by Google Maps API charges on a festival site I run. Would have been >$1k if I din't catch it and replace the API generated maps with standard iframe embeds (which took about an hour of my time)...
I don't expect service for free but this whole $200 free credit p/m totally excludes me from doing anything creative with maps in a web design setting. Everything these days is priced like "use our paid app startup to create your own paid app startup" and it's like a fucking pyramid scam for creative stagnation...
Going to clients like "oh, for this feature you'll have to pay 1 cent per pageview per API call if you get over 20,000 views in a month." just doesn't work for anything outside the paid app use case. For festival sites which have incredibly high traffic in one month and dead for the rest of the year i'm constantly getting the raw end... Same goes for hosting, I put all my festival sites on my ancient MT grid account because it's fixed price, can deal with the spikes and works out cheaper over a year than AWS would in the week of launch.
- Fuck Google.
Go Openstreetmap - heck, you can even download an SVG from them and roll your own.Nairn - we started using static images and a simple js what pulls the map if the visitor actually needs it.sted
- we have 135 venues this year and we had geocoding/ multiple locations on maps before we switched to the iframe embeds... considered openstreetmap but would havekingsteven
- to add half the venues to their db to get it to work + doesn't quite have the coverage in rural ireland i needed / the creative possibilities google maps has.kingsteven
- it's just a pity that google have chosen a spotifyesque BS pricing structure which makes it impossible to give a flat fee for running a website.kingsteven
- the reason a lot of these clients stick with me is because they have other shit to worry about and i make it simple.kingsteven
- i'd love to say it's classic bait and hook, but google maps must cost a shitload to run in server time alone. then again i never forgave them for changing mapshans_glib
- And google wonders why devs are leaving their environment. They do this shit all the time.section_014
- Wonder how much Uber or Lyft or other location based apps pay google to use those fucking maps api or something :))grafician
- yeah not quite bait and hook, not quite total monopolisation but $1k for 200,000 requests in 1 month vs $0 for the same over 5 months is not fair pricingkingsteven
- for professional use outside the paid / ad funded app use case.kingsteven
- If you can find or build a cheaper solution you should go for it, and share!zarkonite
- Screen record your google maps zooming into the locations. Upload to YouTube. Embed videos where map would be required. Google now pays you.shapesalad
- Fuck Google.
- Nairn0
I remember reading about drift on Google Maps, with slight updates gradually making certain pointers and references move over the course of time.
I have a 'helpful' link in my email signature to a Google maps pointer to direct people to my studio here.
I haven't checked it in years. Guess what?
Perhaps explains why some of my clients have turned up here slightly exasperated. I just wish they'd said something, if that was the case.
- Beeswax2
Did you guys switch to Brave browser yet?
It's faster, you can use chrome extensions and it's not Google.
- Yep.nb
- It's Chromium, so may as well be Google, and it fucks over content producers ability to generate revenue and profits 5% of that.Nairn
- imo, firefox with privacy dialled up and uBlock installed is by far the better choice.Nairn
- I really like FirefoxBennn
- I might give FF another try, but it became suck a hog last time I was using it.dbloc
- if you're on a mac, dbloc, the new version released the other day has been honed to run better on macs.Nairn
- drgs0
Google has a Pixel TV in the making
https://twitter.com/androidtv_ru…- (Maybe)drgs
- They already have their software in TVs, so chances are they don't bother making the sets themselves.monospaced
- So people will upgrade their TV every 2 years now?Bennn
- Software can be updated by firmware updates, but usually, it gets outdated and isn't a problem.monospaced
- drgs0
For those with gmail-accounts:
https://myaccount.google.com/pur…- ?Krassy
- Google keeps a list of things you buy even after you delete the emailsdrgs
- ah ok, mht ay list was empty; i've never bought anything using Google payKrassy
- do you delete e-mails?renderedred
- The purchases that showed up on mine weren't bought with Google Pay.PhanLo
- Yea, it does that
https://www.cnbc.com…drgs - Drgs what about your dildo collection?utopian
- Which one, strap-ons or cornbrator ones?drgs
- same as https://www.google.c…SlashPeckham
- 5 gal elmers glue. Hmm.timeless
- Nairn0
Fuck Google.
https://www.theguardian.com/tech…
"Google made $4.7bn in advertising from news content last year, almost as much as the revenue of the entire online news industry."
- fuck google! fuck content creators! fuck employing people! we should redistribute $$ to qbnners. we deserve it more!hotroddy
- erm, if you read the article or paid any attention to what's been happening for years, you'd realise that Google is effectively stealing from 'content creators'Nairn
- I mean, that was kind of the fundamental point of the article I linked. I find it hard to understand how you could miscomprehend it so thoroughly.Nairn
- I stand corrected.hotroddy
- I didn't read the article in haste to respond. I can get behind fucking google but what's stopping content creators from using a different ad platform?hotroddy
- @hotroddy lol, what other ad platforms? You basically have 2 choices: fb for social media (fb + insta) and google for the entire wwwgrafician
- that's my point. what is stopping the NYT from selling their own ad space? Like they do in print?hotroddy
- The backend I suppose.monospaced
- Nairn-4
I have a link to google maps in my email signature, and a client's email scanner has pinged it as a threat, haha
"MailScanner has detected definite fraud in the website at "www.google.co.uk". Do not trust this website"
- Quite right, downvoters! I should have a link to OpenStreetMap in my email signature. Well done both of you, you have my heartfelt thanks.Nairn
- sted-1
google image search started to die, now they are filling the gaps with text menus...
why?i think yandex and duckduckgo started to beat google in the actual search playground, showing better and more variable results.
- those still go to more images though.dbloc
- Haven't used G Images in a year or so. Coming from a designer that does 200+ image searches a day...grafician
- I also didn't use that social network crap G tried to pull on us, then it died...grafician
- Duck all the way...altho' pretty sure it uses Bing as a source, so...grafician
- utopian1
Google pulls Huawei’s Android license, forcing it to use open source version
- utopian1
Intel and Qualcomm reportedly join Google in Huawei ban
- Innovation Never SleepsHayzilla
- China needs more for China...robotron3k
- renderedred1
- I don't think i've actually laughed out loud over a video in a while but holy fuck that was funny, I think I woke up the whole family!_niko
- and welcome to the new pronunciation of Google lol_niko
- i know man :) gooloogooloo to you toorenderedred
- ahahha :Dsted
- Bennn5
Google Stadia, the future of gaming. I'm really impressed.
- Basically, you dont need a console ot computer, its all streaming. You can play on any screen you have. AAA games full 3D infinite possibilities.Bennn
- I think its the most impressive tech i've seen in a long timeBennn
- Foldable phones arrives at the right time for thisBennn
- they're gonna take a healthy chunk of the gaming industry billions. if not most of itGnash
- You can litterally watch a video game trailer on Youtube, hit the PLAY NOW button at the end and start playing in 3sec. a game that would take 4 hours to downloBennn
- download on Steam.Bennn
- Not clear what games... PC games only? Will they be competing with PS Now?drgs
- You can play on your phone, TV, laptop, tablet, cheapass PCBennn
- Possibilities to have ultra massive multiplayer like 1,000s of players at the same time. No latency.Bennn
- 1080 & 4KBennn
- I guarantee there's a monthly subscription fee though, and since it's for virtual content, there's no way you could ever pay for itmonospaced
- ^ oh, snap!Gnash
- I'm just playin' ... I think this is really cool and definitely the future.monospaced
- Interessantset
- fantastic, game changer (no pun intended).fadein11
- Streaming is the future of gaming. And how you will be able to finally have AAA games on mobile. 5G will be great for this.NBQ00
- Its a glympse on the future of computers in general. All you'll need is screens, everything will be streaming, the OS, the programs, the games... etcBennn
- Hi hackers! Cyber-War is coming.Bennn
- Sounds awesome, but I don't want to deal with latency, ever. The fact that this is Linux based is very promising tough.section_014
- Great for casual, same old streaming shite for decent lo ping multiplayer.
It's Google, so a) It's Google, b) It'll get cancelled when they change their mindNairn - Meh, just another subscription service like Adobe's. I ain't paying a monthly fee just to play a couple of games, that's a ripoff.zarkonite
- i dont know, maybe you'll have to pay the games individually. Like on any consoles.Bennn
- @section_014 Thats one of the main thing of it, there's virtually no latency at all..! 60FPS all the time.Bennn
- oops, I missed the all-important word in my whinge - 'latency'.Nairn
- haha, too late.
I'm curious to know how they can sustain a constant 60fps across the board, across all reasonably-common connectionsNairn - The one use for HD game streaming I always thought would be neat was as far-off backgrounds in otherwise-local FPS games.Nairn
- watch the announcment, lots of technical details in itBennn
- I'm sure, but I'm also more familiar with my shitty home broadband connection than Google is.Nairn
- Given how copyright law works and this is a streaming service, there's little chance game devs are going to agree to sell their games.zarkonite
- It's very likely to be a subscription service.zarkonite
- i demand launch date and list of gamesdrgs
- As soon as someone else in your house starts watching a make up video on youtube, expect the game play to be lagging...shapesalad
- didn't Sony and Valve/Steam already attempt this?inteliboy
- https://en.wikipedia…inteliboy
- color me impresseddee-dubs
- inteliboy: the difference here is that google built a crazy ass network + server farms to make it work.zarkonite
- Comcast has a 1GB monthly cap, if I streamed all the hours I played games I'd blow through that way quicker than I already do.evilpeacock
- of course, you'll need unlimited internet, I already have it since a few years since we're streaming video like crazy in here.Bennn
- bennn: pay monthly for software to earn $$$: fuck no! pay monthly to play video games : take my money!! I need a bennnsplanation on this one.dyspl
- plus adobe cc is too expensivemonospaced
- Here's an article resuming for those interested: https://www.theverge…Bennn
- Exciting! I look forward to playing Tetris and Chess on Stadia!!!Krassy
- nvidia has this for years alreadymekk
- if it work, it would be amazing. "if"pango
- w about privacy? G does only things if they can collect data. i am sure there will be a microphone in any device like in nest. google is a heavy data collector.api
- Ya mics are already in controllerspango
- and in-game advertisingemphor
- Nairn0
https://redalemeden.com/blog/201…
"The dominance of Chrome has a major detrimental effect on the Web as an open platform: developers are increasingly shunning other browsers in their testing and bug-fixing routines. If it works as intended on Chrome, it’s ready to ship. This in turn results in more users flocking to the browser as their favorite Web sites and apps no longer work elsewhere, making developers less likely to spend time testing on other browsers. A vicious cycle that, if not broken, will result in most other browsers disappearing in the oblivion of irrelevance. And that’s exactly how you suffocate the open Web."
- But, in theory chrome / Firefox use the web standards. That was not the case with ie and safari a few years back...Salarrue
- Average person doesn't care about any of this, unfortunately. Hopefully people will go to Firefox when Google disables adblockers in chrome.section_014
- i dumped chrome a while ago for ff. in fact i've pretty much dumped goggle.hans_glib
- netscape hereGnash
- this happened with iOS in the beginning, but things eventually evened out with Android, mostlymonospaced
- I'm using Vivaldi since two days at work, built on Chromium engine. Very nice! All the features from Chrome and Firefox are there. It uses Chromes's addons too.Bennn
- https://vivaldi.com/…Bennn
- hans_glib, are you using Gmail?Bennn
- The sidebar to watch for example Youtube while srufing the web is very nice on VivaldiBennn
- “Favorite websites no longer work elsewhere”... seems like a stretch. Standardization between browsers is good enough these days that most sitesyuekit
- that work properly on Chrome will display the same (or almost the same) elsewhere, no?yuekit
- Anyway there are lots of iOS users out there who will continue to use Safari by default.yuekit
- there needs to be a standard, so one browser or multiple browsers that work as expected. browser specific fixes shows browsers haven't been sorted correctlyimbecile
- there are international standards they must all meet, but each one of course has to innovate on top of that, to differentiate and attract usersmonospaced
- there are only suggestions set by the W3C, if all browsers do not adhere to those, there are not standards. no need to argue.imbecile
- Thank Zeldman for things being a million times better than they were 10 years ago.
Personally I rarely notice any major bugs when testing these days.fadein11 - Chrome and Safari behave virtually identically.fadein11
- I wasn't arguing, just saying that they meet a set of standards. Thanks for pointing out they aren't required to adhere (even though they all do). :)monospaced
- The W3C is the more purist version. There is a second standards group composed of people from the big tech companies which tries to agree how to implement theiryuekit
- ideas, and it then gets built into the browsers. So at least they try to work together rather than crush their opponents like Microsoft did back in the day.yuekit
- many js plugins/libraries are shit on safarihotroddy
- Bennn3
this is the only hardware. But you'll be able to use your own controllers if you want. No need to buy this one.