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• digdre

  I am making a small booklet, now I noticed the print booklet option in indesign, and I have some questions.
  What do these options here mean?
  

  

  whats the difference between 2-up / 3-up / ..
  and between stapled / sequential?

  I have pages of 15*21 cm wich alows me to print a 2pages on my A3printer, now I was wondering if it gives you the option to print verso and to put the printed paper back in the paperslot ? or how does it work?

  Thanks for your time & help

  Oct 24, 09, 8:21 a.m. – Permalink

• monospaced

  It's about imposition. Spreads get separated in order for the book to be printed in the correct order after folding, trimming and binding. Only the cover and center spread pages actual print out side-by-side, for example. When you go to press they print sheets that are large enough to hold three or four spreads, but no home printer can do that.

  • Just select "Preview" to see what the differences actually are. And learn the difference between Perfect Bound and Stapled.– monospaced

  

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  Dog-earOct 24, 09, 9:44 a.m. – Permalink

• digdre

  It shows:
  

  

  next is:

  

  but what if I want 4 at the back of 3 ? or can't I print recto/verso with that option?!

  

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  Dog-earOct 24, 09, 10:32 a.m. – Permalink

• gramme

  Stapled = saddle stitched. Sequential = perfect bound or smythe sewn, etc. (anything with a spine) that requires trimmed leaves rather than folded signatures.

  In a saddle stitched piece, your pages must be in fours. In a bound piece, they only need to be an even number, although fours in that instance are the most economical as well.

  The difference between 2-up and 3-up is how many signatures or leaves will fit on a sheet. This of course will depend on the trim size of the piece and the size of paper it's being printed on.

  I believe the way the Print Booklet option works varies from one printer to the next. I've seen some printers, probably similar to what you have, which run the A side, and then you have to manually flip the sheets to print the B side (in commercial printing, these would be called forms, i.e. the arrangement of pages on a press sheet, which is printed one side and then either completed as a work & turn or a work & back depending on how leaves or signatures are arranged).

  

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  Dog-earOct 24, 09, 10:46 a.m. – Permalink

• digdre

  ^
  thanks

  I just tested a 8page textfile
  it just prints 4sheets of paper with 2 on each..
  so i don't think recto verso is possible..
  I'll think i have to imprt my finished .pdf into photoshop and make custom files then...

  

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  Dog-earOct 24, 09, 11:08 a.m. – Permalink

• gramme

  I've done this before with saddle stitched brochures and it worked just fine. You shouldn't have to make custom files, otherwise there's no point in having that printer option right? I can't remember how to make it work properly, it took me some figuring too. I'll try to dig up that particular project and see if I can figure it out again.

  • that would be great– digdre1/2

    cuz I just want to print recto / verso in a correct and easy way. :p– digdre2/2

  

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  Dog-earOct 24, 09, 11:45 a.m. – Permalink

• gramme

  OK, so I've got a 16 page saddle stitched brochure I designed last year. Note that I designed it in reader spreads, not single pages. These are the settings I used under the Print Booklet dialogue:

  Pages: All
  Booklet Type: 2-up saddle stitched
  Margins: Automatically Adjust to Fit Marks and Bleeds
  Print Blank Printer Spreads

  So when I look at it in Preview, I see page 16 on the verso side of signature 1 (side A), with page 1 recto. Side B is page 2 verso, page 15 recto, and so on. This is as it should be, so that when you collate the brochure your page numbers are arranged the way you designed them.

  Hope that solves it for you.

  • so i have to set 2 signatures or what is signature for anyway?– digdre

  

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  Dog-earOct 24, 09, 12:02 p.m. – Permalink

• gramme

  Oh and a correction about 2-up vs. 4-up, etc: that's actually the number of pages that will print on a side of a single sheet, not the number of spreads as I was originally thinking. Got it confused with a commercial press sheet setup for a second there.

  

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  Dog-earOct 24, 09, 12:03 p.m. – Permalink

• digdre

  BTW
  is it much of a difference if I:
  opened a 'new document' instead of 'new book' at the very beginning?

  • nvm.– digdre

  

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  Dog-earOct 24, 09, 12:19 p.m. – Permalink

• digdre

  Still not working, gramme.

  So I have this
  

  

  I set signature to 8,
  did your settings,
  and it prints 4 sheets of paper, I want it to print 2, and when thats done, to do the other side of those 2..
  or print 1, flip the page, print other side. Print sheet 2, flip and print other side

  

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  Dog-earOct 24, 09, 12:27 p.m. – Permalink

• digdre

  OK, i saved a PDF opened it in acrobat, took a look into the print options
  I hope this here solves it:
  

  

  
  I can choose for front/ back.

  • that just messes it up– digdre

  

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  Dog-earOct 24, 09, 12:40 p.m. – Permalink

• digdre

  ha, fuck this just messes things up

  

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  Dog-earOct 24, 09, 12:50 p.m. – Permalink

• digdre

  BUMP

  

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  Dog-earOct 24, 09, 2:22 p.m. – Permalink

• gramme

  Where did you specify a number of signatures? I don't have that option under Print Booklet.

  Try locking your spreads up so your first page can be part of a spread, rather than by itself.

  

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  Dog-earOct 24, 09, 2:39 p.m. – Permalink

• digdre

  

  down right there

  

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  Dog-earOct 24, 09, 2:43 p.m. – Permalink

• gramme

  Did you try one?

  

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  Dog-earOct 24, 09, 3:15 p.m. – Permalink

• gramme

  Alsp, try checking your Print Settings. Should be landscape format for the spreads.

  

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  Dog-earOct 24, 09, 3:16 p.m. – Permalink

• gramme

  ^ You ever figure this one out dig?

  

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  Dog-earOct 26, 09, 11:53 a.m. – Permalink

• digdre

  no, not really.

  so I just imported it all to Photoshop and printed it 2pages per 2pages

  

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  Dog-earOct 26, 09, 12:07 p.m. – Permalink

• gramme

  I blame the Dutch.

  

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  Dog-earOct 26, 09, 12:08 p.m. – Permalink