BNP on Question Time
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- vespa0
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so why do all the menial jobs get filled by immigrants rather than unemployed english people? are the unemployed english going for these jobs and not getting them or are they choosing not to go for these types of jobs?
- you tell me!calculator
- well this is why people are unhappy. Years ago a builder was wealthy. no moreProjectile
- Khurram0
when i was in uni i took a summer job as a steward at Twickenham rugby ground. Everyone else working with me were blacks. No jamaican blacks either, but from Ghana and that, with the accents. I don't think they were illegal, tho. Didn't get paid much, but job paid for my Spanish drug binge that year. At recruitment agency it was just me and blacks and a couple of other foreign students that wanted to be stewards at Twickenham.
My mate was white-english and he did it an'all. He's the one who told me about it actually. I think only students and immigrants want to be Stewards at Twickenham - unless you're a fan of ruby.
It's like, the people handign out Metros and London Lites outside the tube - how come they are ALL little Indians? And you know they're immigrants cos they have accents. Only Indian immigrants seem up to handing out the Metro - tho i once saw a polish bird doin it.
Once upon a time Irish people in't England used to be called tinkers - cos they used to go around mending people's pots and pans. There's not much call for that anymore cos so much of our crockery is plastic. But in Victorian times, you had these people that were Sewer dwellers who used to spend all day in sewers looking for shit they could sell - like teeth they could give to dentists and that.
Wot i'm saying is, unemployment, its a bit of a weird concept when you think about it. There's always summat to do - cash in hand. All you have to do is wade threw human excrement to find teeth to sell.
I mean if it weren't for the welfare state, we wouldn't have unemployment at all! Cos there's always summat for you to do.
- wot i'm sayin is the immigration/unemploy... concept is a false dichotomy. A MIRAGE to hide the troofKhurram
- please dont speak like that, you're far too intelligent and it distracts from your point.
a-thank you.mikotondria3
- lowimpakt0
there is a tradition of not providing a platform for rascists and fascists.
but there are a not to shabby amount of rascist british people (scum) that voted for them so I think they should be on show like question time.
- Bluejam0
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- vespa0
"little Indians" haha Khurram you're such a shit stirrer!
Hey in india I once saw a guy whose job was to follow a trolley that was pushing mechanical parts like pipes and massive screws and things (i'm clearly not an engineer), he had a magnet on a string and he'd pick up all the metal filings that fell off the trolley, to recylcle/sell them. People will do ANYTHING for a job if they really have to.
- Khurram0
- It's just British shit has a nicer scent, is why they come to it, i think.Khurram
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- kezza_20
I guess there are just a lot of things that are coming to a head I suppose Vespa.
In the last 50 years the UK has had immigration that now counts for about 15% of the population. We have had the worst ressession in a long time, but also a lot of the old industries that used to employ people have gone. Unemployment back up, and now we're part of a bigger marketplace called Europe.
I always think its a shame that lots of things have gone, like Sheffield Steel and so on but I guess thats the way the cookie crumbles.
Some people will do well out of a Globalised economy, generally those who are poor in developing nations and some will see there standards of life fall like a bricklayer in Blackburn.
I guess the point is that a lot of these things are just plain happening to people and I guess no one ever asked them.
I for one am glad. I run an agency in London with 12 different nationalities, we have gays, goths, northerners, Canadians. Its a proper diverse place, working for clients in NYC, Milan, Geneva. I am so lucky to work in one of the only fucking industries with a low supply of good people. I would fucking love to give 3 apprenticeships to people from Blackburn.
In fact I'm going to figure out how I do that right now, let you know how I get on.
- vespa0
"gays, goths, northerners, Canadians" hahaaa
"I would fucking love to give 3 apprenticeships to people from Blackburn."
That's a brilliant idea right there. You're clearly a creative worthy of your title!
- calculator0
"There's always summat to do - cash in hand. All you have to do is "
wade threw human excrement to find teeth to sell."Wise words
- vespa0
Did anyone see that Panorama report this week where 2 asian reporters went undercover on an estate? Really horrible. Don't let the BNP sidetrack you into thinking anti-racism is about taking away "non-immigrant" British peoples' rights.
This is racism -- you may think it doesn't happen any more but it's happening now, in every city in the UK. Do not be fooled by the BNP.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/epi…- i can't watch iPlayer stuff overhere, but the preview on youtube is rather shocking....bolus
- Khurram0
Also, what was the problem of 700,000 polish people coming here? Someone explain me that cos i don't get why they brought that up. "You expected 56,000, but you got 700,000" - oh right, so what? Why should i care? Why should anyone care?
- because the hospital in Ealing cant cope. They work out funding based on population 2 years agokezza_2
- are you seriosu? could you link me to something regarding this?Khurram
- you just made that up kezza! lolKhurram
- and if a slice of their income pays for the health service itself anyway - are they unbalancing the equation??Khurram
- These are lies!Khurram
- Khurram0
And as far as i'm concerned - it's not about crime, immigrants raping white girls, gangs, employment, stealing our benefits or any of that shit - it's about cultural dilution. An innate fear of foreign people/cultures/language/traditi... and that is IT. That's ALL the immigration debate the world-over boils down to. Wanting to preserve their culture that is, what the BNP appeal to. We don't want no Diwali festivals in our schools or Yom Kippur sales in our supermarkets.
So you have to ask yourself, how much you care about "your culture" and wanting to preserve it, and "your way" of doing things.
Personally i dont' give a fuck. Your gonna die anyway, so fuck it.
- Agreed.Orbit
- Finally, the salient point from the qbn clown, but your nihilism fails to impress.Cactus
- lol, ooooh Cactus, i try so hard to impress you!Khurram
- i dont need to rape white girls - they come to me... its awesome!SlashPeckham
- honest0
is the audience within spitting distance from the panel?
- lowimpakt0
kezza - " In fact I'm going to figure out how I do that right now, let you know how I get on. "
maybe look into this??
"New investment in apprenticeshipsUp to 1,125 new Apprenticeship places will be created to train 16-24 year olds for a career in the creative and cultural industries. Apprenticeships Minister, Kevin Brennan, has announced that the National Skills Academy for Creative & Cultural Skills (NSA) has secured funding to run an Apprenticeship Service, which will be available from April 2010.
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Apprenticeships offer non graduate entry routes into the sector and open up opportunities to young people who do not choose to go into higher education."
- jamble0
He's still free to speak but question time should probably just tell him to speak to someone else and fuck off.
I'd like to think that given the airtime the BNP would talk themselves into a corner but for all his abhorrent policies, he's pretty savvy and it would be unlikely he's going to say anything controversial which would mean there's a danger he'd actually appeal to people watching.
I still can't believe 1 million people voted BNP in the last elections.
- kezza_20
Seriously all central government funding is worked out on population and when you have a massive influx into an area, theres a massive shortfall.
So you end up with overcrowded hospitals, schools, GPs, Dentists, not enough refuse collection. the list is endless...
Its all about infrastructure
couple of articles:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol…
http://www.thetimes100.co.uk/add…
- must_dash0
They only got in because too many people DIDN'T vote, thats the sad thing. If you've got a bunch of people who feel strongly they'll vote for a fascist party like that, whereas too many people just though 'meh, can't be arsed to vote'
- calculator0
"Cultural Dilution" is an interesting point. I guess once every country is a homogenised melting pot of cultures, we'll have no need to travel. At least the planet will be saved.
So the BNP kill polar bears as well.
- i just think these statistics and numbers try to hide what the truth of this argument is - and its unpleasant.Khurram