Set up 2 Pantones Overlapping in Illy
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- Dancer
In all the years of print I have never had to do this.
I am setting up some stationery for print and the new logo created has 2 Pantone colours in it. These 2 colours overlap and as the top colour has a "transparency" the overlapping area creates a 3 colour (by a mix of the 2)
Now I do not want to have any transparency set on the artwork so I need to fake it. How would I set up the 3rd colour by just having 2 pantones in Illustrator?
I know you do this in Photoshop by just deleting the CMYK channels and leaving the 2 spots in but how would I set it up for print in Illustrator.
Does that make sense?
- shitehawke0
Overprint?
Did something similar recently, had a pantone gray overprinting onto a red in a gradient to create a darker red going into a lighter. Worked fine and use your 'overprint preview' in either illy or indesign to get a representation of how it would look.
- hans_glib0
if it's a tint you don't need to do anything - the halftone will automatically show the colour underneath. Unless of course you are printing a cream over a black, in which case it won't show. You'd have to screen it using opaque ink for this to work
- Dancer0
I suppose it is more so the client can see the effect
- Orbit0
If they are relatively simple shapes with relatively simple overlaps, I would prefer to punch the shapes with pathfinder and then individually set each element's colour/tint value. Anything else and you're relying on pdfs to translate and there's plenty of room for fuck ups.
- Dancer0
Yeah that's what I am trying to do Spooky. but this is a 2 colour print job. Ideally I would set the overlap as a 3rd colour but this hasn't been spec'd. The client needs to see the final Artwork for sign off but they won't see the overlap. it would just look solid (but a little lighter)
hans_glib is right though – this part of the logo is black with a yeelow tint over the top so I doubt you would see it....
- hans_glib0
the danger is you'll end up with something like this happening... where the 50% yellow is obscured by the black so altering it's perceived value
i'd talk to a printer about it - he could advise on screen angles etc
- neue75_bold0
when in doubt, consult your printer... will the client pay for a proper pull-down so they can sign-off on something accurate?
- Dancer0
Yeah we have just been discussing a wet proof
- Yolo0
you won't notice much overprint with that - just a slightly darker black.
its the attributes box in illustrator, then do overprint preview in the view menu
- Dancer0
^that's originally what I was looking for thanks, but hans has run me into a completely new world of shit.