CMS: flexibility
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- bort0
@johnnnyh
I feel you on the image/file management thing. I haven't used EE enough to make that statement myself, but I know that's part of the reason I left Textpattern for Wordpress. As far as the WYSIWYG editor, so long as there is a plugin in for it that's not really a problem, yeah?
- leewilson780
I'm a Joomla user. Whichever system you use, don't let the CMS drive the template design, use a CMS that can get you to the end product easily.
- Nightshade0
I completely agree with johnnnnyh. Having created a number of small/medium sites with WP I decided to try EE for a larger project. I found it to be very time consuming to set up, with a number of plugins needed to be installed to provide basic functions that came as standard with WP. The usability of the admin area is poor and hard for clients to grasp.
On the plus side, it's 'weblogs' feature makes it easy to create pages for different types of content- for instance products or calendar events. I just wish WP had this function, then there would be no need to use another CMS (perhaps there is a plugin for WP to organise data in this way?).
Therefore I'd recommend using WP unless you really need EE's weblogs feature.
- johnnnnyh0
I'd go for WP. Have been using EE for a site and while it's OK there's a lot about it that is well - not that good. For example, no inbuilt WYSWIG for clients who want it. Crap image/file management (from the client perspective).
Overall if you're the one using the CMS then EE is pretty good. But if you're handing it over to muppets then you need to watch out because it's not intuitive to users. Sorry, but that's the way it has been for me. Plus you have to buy a license.
WP makes more sense - but I can see there would be things you couldn't do that easily.
I really don't get the big hype over EE. I wish I did!
- jysta0
Im just about to try MODx for a 200 page online catalogue that needs to be live in a couple of days, I'll let you know how it goes :-O
- http://modxcms.com/jysta
- i like the look of thatmikotondria3
- forcetwelve0
can someone tell me what are the major advantages of EE compared to WP? im interested if it's easier to implement.
- me too, wp is easy but for larger websites with lots of pages I dont see it workingFallowDeer
- bort0
I finally got around to installing EE. I've got to admit, after only an hour of noodling around in the admin area I really like what I see. The templating system reminds me of Textpattern. I love how flexible the custom fields are too.
- must_dash0
I'd avoid wordpress
- freitag0
Alrighty then... Expression Engine is what I will check.
- comicsans0
EE lets you do anything you want and has a good security track record, excellent documentation and world class support. Nothing else comes close but if you're a cheapskate and prepared to work hard to learn it, then MODx is designer friendly.
- you need to work hard to learn it, but it's designer friendly.... seems a little like an oxymoron.Amicus
- You don't need to work hard to learn, once you figure out how to save your templates as flat filesimnotaplumber
- Very little of MODX is documented, but when you figure it out you can do pretty much anything you want.comicsans
- moth0
I'm also running with Concrete5 at the moment.
Same approach as Perch by the sounds of it. You CMS the skin.
- FallowDeer0
im keen on using EE, but for every website I do, small or big im told to do it in wordpress, its good but is it ment to handle massive 100+ page websites etc...
- slappy0
I have been using Perch a bit lately. So far the clients love the simplicity. Probably the easiest CMS I have worked with becuase you dont skin the CMS, you CMS the skin. Its perfect for small sites with simple requirements.
- imnotaplumber0
Expression Engine is really flexible, easy to design the front end however you want. If you can't understand Expression Engine you shouldn't be making websites. Expression Engine is a designers CMS.
- once you understand Expression Engine you won't want to use Wordpress again.imnotaplumber
- Agreed. Had to get off Drupal because too many clients complained. I'm diggin' EEMrNibs
- forcetwelve0
havn't used it but looks good - and have mates that use it.
- I've tried it and it gives me fitsTheBlueOne
- ah yeh, me too - tried it for a huge project. Rather impenetrable and obtuse.mikotondria3
- adamrobertson0
Concrete5 is also very nice.
- ukit0
Wordpress has by the nicest admin UI and by far the largest community of developers/ plugins etc. For a small content based site it's probably the best option to get up and running quickly
Expression Engine gives you more flexibility and also has a respectable dev community behind it. With Expression Engine it's a bit easier to build exactly the site you want, but it will take a fair amount of work and front end dev knowledge.
At the end of the day, you can build a good site on any of these platforms, I've yet to run into a case where people bump up against a wall of needing to do something that wasn't possible.
- mikotondria30
Ive said it before, and I'll say it again :)
www.madebyfrog.com
Its so simple, it's almost too flexible, there arent many plugins - you can write them really easily *IF* you know your way round php.
I would say for folks that would honestly split their talentage twixt hardcoding, design and markup, its a great framework to leverage a site together.
- Amicus0
TBO - are you saying that Expression Engine is hard to design for?
- possibly that it's more difficult to design around than Textpatter or sNews?Point5
- Yeah. It's not THAT hard, but I find snews and textpattern far easier. But EE is great as well...TheBlueOne