struggling with AS3 1515 Responses

Last post: 3 years, 8 months ago | Thread started: Sep 13, 09, 4:39 a.m.

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• applepirate

  first complete site i have done in WAY toooooo long. got it stuck in my head for a while i could switch from flash/print work to photo/product design....

  about 40% finished with this site... god damn i hate OOP and AS3... my brain works so much better with AS2 and AVM1 and the hacktastic old ways of flashMX

  www.abllab.com

  lemme know what you think of the concept and the layout. the flash wizardry and videos are all being cranked out for a monday morning launch. so this weekend is test server meltdown.

  i miss macromedia. the bloat of CS4 is not worth the amazing roundtripping between PS->AI->FLA

  Sep 13, 09, 4:39 a.m. – Permalink

• co2

  You may want to tweak the buffer setting on the masked out video of Jean. The video starts to stutter when the connection is slow.

  None of the "In Action" links work.

  I would reign in the colors and the font sizes. Too many variations on that site.

  

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  Dog-earSep 13, 09, 4:52 a.m. – Permalink

• mydo

  Flash CS4 runs slowly on my PC i can't bear little lag between clicks. and like you AS3 seems to be in the realm of real programming and i feel like a kid who's just mastered Scalelectric and then been told do laps in a Radical SR8.

  anyway. i think the site sucks. sorry. fails on a number of reasons.

  1. on 1024 x 768 with all browser chrome you'll loose the bottom 150 pixels of the site. no scroll bar either.
  2. ugly.

  • can you email me a screengrab of ur browser? im deving this on a 17"mbpro. im kinda in dreamland.– applepirate1/5

    http://www.webmaster…– mydo2/5

    got a 12" pbook i have been testing this w/1024x768 no scrolling needed. maybe lose the 9toolbars in your IE?– applepirate3/5

    title chrome + file bar + browser control bar + address bar + status bar + ms start bar– mydo4/5

    and maybe favourites bar and a tabs bar, and a google bar,– mydo5/5

  

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  Dog-earSep 13, 09, 4:56 a.m. – Permalink

• spraycan

  

  • greatest music ever. not a great party option but still.– airey

  

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  Dog-earSep 13, 09, 5:08 a.m. – Permalink

• applepirate

  well thanks guys.

  i know it sucks.

  its just an attempt at replacing this http://actionbasedlearning.com/t…

  and im doing it in between a ton of other stuff, and with no budget. gave two friends of mine in first year of school the chance at the project and im overseeing the work and attempting the AS3 work.

  this is, as i said 40% finished.... nothing has been normalized between a guy on a PC with no idea how to do anything but draw by hand(hence illustrated versions of jean's grandkids randomly inserted all over the place) and a AS3 dev friend of mine that is just checking my hacktastic code and deciphering my numbskull code errors for me.

  so.. i know its ugly i know the colors are intense but this is what it is. tightenig up all the crazy font size's and relating this into a cohesive flow of info is next on the list.

  • the old one was better....sorry– marychain1/3

    the old one was an html template that some hackjobs were taking 5 months to creat.– applepirate2/3

    it was an html template that some hackjobs were taking 5mths to fill out, i took the site over and am doing the best i can!– applepirate3/3

  

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  Dog-earSep 13, 09, 5:25 a.m. – Permalink

• d_rek

  in all honesty i see no good reason to make this site a flash website, outside of your personal interests, it seems as if a site like that would benefit more from being accessible and printable - which flash can definitely be neither at times.

  I would reconsider if flash as3 is the most appropriate technology for this job. Granted if you're taking it on just for the challenge of learning it, then good for you. But if this is client-oriented I might reconsider.

  • have a flickr/vimeo/wordpre... backend in the works.... friend needed a site so taking it on as a massive tutorial.– applepirate1/4

    Agreed. I also don't see the benefit on one main SWF if there's not interesting transitions between sections,– acrossthesea2/4

    You could break it out a bit so you have a swf per page and then you'd have an html file per page giving you basic bookmarking / back button functionality– acrossthesea3/4

    back button and bookmarking functionality– acrossthesea4/4

  

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  Dog-earSep 13, 09, 6:02 a.m. – Permalink

• Pupsipu

  seems like a site you can do in Flash Catalyst without coding anything.

  

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  Dog-earSep 13, 09, 9:44 a.m. – Permalink

• applepirate

  we are implementing flash deeplinking for SEO and Back Button Functionaliity.

  currently working on a video player that is fed with videos machine tagged inside of vimeo, youtube and flickr. so far we have vimeo looking to be the hardest to control inside of an AS3 container. Youtube and flickr video/photo feeds are a breeze into AS3... thats the reason that i didnt just spec out a css/jscript site. im trying to see how many 2.0 services we can pump into this for back end CMS purposes.

  

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  Dog-earSep 13, 09, 10:57 a.m. – Permalink

• vaxorcist

  Alot of this as3 deep linking, back button, flash stuff seems to be re-inventing the, uh, browser the hard way, a bit slower, and at great effort and expense....

  • shhhhh! our clients might hear you...– monNom1/2

    even AJAX needs deep linking and back button sometimes– Pupsipu2/2

  

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  Dog-earSep 13, 09, 1:42 p.m. – Permalink

• mikotondria3

  Where have I seen this site before ?

  • you've seen this? really? i feel sorry for the people that did this before me. hope they got paid more then we did.– applepirate1/2

    honestly, I don't recall properly. Our peoples' paths have crossed not long ago, Im certain.– mikotondria32/2

  

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  Dog-earSep 13, 09, 1:53 p.m. – Permalink

• ukit

  "Youtube and flickr video/photo feeds are a breeze into AS3... thats the reason that i didnt just spec out a css/jscript site. "

  OK...but why do you have to build the whole thing in Flash? You know you can just embed individual Flash movies on each page, right?

  At this point, since you seem to be stressing and are not getting paid...my advice would be to just grab a suitable Wordpress theme, tweak it and you'll have a better looking site with a CMS and functionality that actually works.

  

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  Dog-earSep 13, 09, 3:11 p.m. – Permalink

• ukit

  One more little thing...when I click the play button on the homepage, it turns in a pause button. When I click the pause button, it remains a pause button.

  

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  Dog-earSep 13, 09, 3:13 p.m. – Permalink

• airey

  could you perhaps get a designer involved so it doesn't look so fucking awful?

  • blunt. I like it.– acrossthesea1/2

    maybe a designer decided this style would get the right reaction from the audience?– Pupsipu2/2

  

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  Dog-earSep 13, 09, 5:02 p.m. – Permalink

• applepirate

  this job was an attempt at giving a close friend an engaging interactive website that triumphs over the HTML template that her previous "web masters" were capable of. Its been fun getting back into flash after almost 2 years away from fulltime developing, i do not write code well.. the only language i have ever been fluent outside of english is ActionScript1and2. So all the ideas of css/jquery/whatevercodenowdoes"f... well that would never be an option or desire for my work. I dream of a web where i need to know fewer programming languages not mash html/css/jquery/rubyonrails/ajax up together to get similar effects as the tweener.as file i import in a single line into my .swf.

  i know people that develop in other platforms have concrete reasons to say im re-inventing the wheel to get something accomplished in the flashplayer, well fuck it! its the only devapp i am comfortable in and i think a couple million websites and 98%saturation of the flash player prove something... its a powerful tool so why not try to use it?

  • if you're learning stuff you will use again then more power to you.– airey1/3

    i'd be more concerned that all your hard work is visually less appealing than the old template site. at the moment.– airey2/3

    i think the visuals are extremely original and artistic– Pupsipu3/3

  

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  Dog-earSep 13, 09, 5:03 p.m. – Permalink

• ukit

  I think you are missing the point. Just build the parts that need to be in Flash (the video) in Flash, and create regular HTML pages for the site like she had before. That doesn't take any special knowledge to do, in fact it will be less work than what you are trying to do now.

  

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  Dog-earSep 13, 09, 5:09 p.m. – Permalink

• applepirate

  ok ukit i hear that... honestly i get that im going about this on the "scenic drive" when there is an "expressway" that would expedite my journey.

  I just hate the way i live in a mac world and have my whole life and when i want to make a website with html and other languages i need every OS and every browser to make sure all my elements are working right. I have enough of a difficulty keeping up with the progression of one language. how does the crossplatform browser version dependencies of modern day website assembly code make anything any easier? the idea of code rendering "correctly in firefox" but not in IE... that shit drives me insane.

  its all b/c my architect grandfather put the original mac in my room when i was barely old enough to talk.... i've been thinking differently ever since. I'll go yell at him for not buying me a IBM mainframe and a "Idiots Guide to Programming in BASIC" book. im sure id be much more XHTML5.0 compliant.

  • plenty of us do web on mac. it just means you need to do your trade correctly. and self medicate.– airey1/2

    Just don't overmedicate LOL– ukit2/2

  

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  Dog-earSep 13, 09, 5:18 p.m. – Permalink