Congrats USA, you're Dutch!
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- janne76
http://www.google.com/hostednews…
"In 1626, the Dutch bought Manhattan from the indigenous Lenapes people for the equivalent of 24 dollars.
The settlement was known first as New Amsterdam and then, under British rule from 1664, as New York. The river sweeping along the city is called the Hudson.
"Henry Hudson arrived on these shores 400 years ago and helped lay the foundation for what would later become New York City," Mayor Michael Bloomberg said at the ceremony."you're Dutch! yes..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dut…
In and around NYC plenty of places named after Dutch towns:
USA : NL
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Brooklyn : Breukelen
Harlem : Haarlem
Flushing : Vlissingen
Bronx : Jonas Bronck (person)Wall Street : Walstraat
Kikeout : Kijkuit
and many many more..
American words taken from Dutch (which itself took it from Germans, hence Dutch > Deutsch):
cookie : koekje
dollar : daalder
smear case : smeerkaas
waffle : wafel
coleslaw : koolsla
santa claus : sinterklaas
dumbhead : domkop
brandy : brandewijn (typical dutch at the time)
sleigh : slee
sea bass: zeebaarsA lot of the words were taken over by Indians under the Dutch rule, and then transformed over time. In eastern American Indian culture a lot of words are still there. After the Dutch handed the rule over to the British colonists they needed a translator to communicate with the Indians as the only western language they understood was Dutch.
Catskill is derived from the old Dutch word Kil (which you still see here in place names), Kil meaning stream. Catskill is thus the stream of colonist Kat.
Now called Catskill Creek, which is double for stream huhuhu...Also names such as Roosevelt, Vanderbilt, Van Buren, DeWitt etc.
Anyway, all glamorous and fun.
Yet, the Dutch weren't quite the darlings back then. Some Indian villages were put on fire by a certain Dutch colonist (whose ship sank on the way back and he died < Karma!), the basterd even slaughtered kids in front of their Indian parent's eyes..
So I am not sure if we should celebrate or not.
But there's quite a few things going in NYC and around the Hudson, Empire State in orange lights i heard?
- utopian0
What about the world famous "Dutch Oven", any thoughts?
- Greedo0
welcome to american history 101.
and the New England Confederation was formed as a defensive alliance against the dutchies, which is why NY is not a part of New England...
- epic_rim0
de hond is wit
- harlequino0
sea bass?
- janne760
for the dutch, here's a pdf that explains a lot:
http://www.onzetaal.nl/nieuws/09…
- ETM0
Sorry no with the "Wall Street : Walstraat". Its called Wall Street because there was an actual wall there. Unless Walstraat is the literal translation of Wall Street, that's false."Once upon a time, before New York City was a city, there really was a wall. It was built in 1644, on the lower end of Manhattan "Island" by the Dutch to protect against British attacks. Years later, the defensive wall was gone, but the road alongside remained and was, of course, called Wall Street. We think of Wall Street as the financial center of the world, but it hasn't always been this way. "
- exactly.. Dutch word for old water defenses is Wal. And in Holland you have plent of those streetnames as well: Walstraat.janne76
- Walstraat.janne76
- this shit has been studied by historians and language experts. do not belittle them!
grrr...janne76 - It likely would have been called Wall Street either way... because of the wall and such. :)ETM
- ninjasavant0
Congratulations, you're now as keen on American history as the average 4th grader.
- janne760
Why the hate here?
- janne760
sorry for being enthousiastic. i'll leave the thread now.
you people aren't even funny. always taking shit down. well done.
- scarabin0
interesting
- janne760
it is not to regard you as being dumb, i am sure there are details some people might have thought to be interesting.
but with most people it always goes like this:
oooh i already knew this you n00b"bunch of highschoolers. really.
i knew most of those things as well, but i thought it was nice sharing and perhaps adding to the knowledge..
but fuck it, just be childish and meh meh about it.
OUT.
- FTR, the spirit of my post was:
you: ha ha, you're dutch!
me: ha ha, we know!ninjasavant
- FTR, the spirit of my post was:
- digdre0
enschede
- Milan0
Congrats on being Dutch, which ain't much.
- utopian0
I like the Dutch!
