6 'Designers' in jail
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- felizfeliz
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/engla…
Vandalising someone else's property isn't a good idea.
And in my own personal opinion, graffiti looks like a ruddy mess. I wouldn't mind if graffiti was in Helvetica or something other san-serif font. And had something better to say than someones nick name or notepad doodle. Imagine if we were to design newspapers, operating systems, eye test cards, airport signage etc. in scripty graffiti style typography. World would look like a frigging mess.
And unfortunately that what's graffiti is. A mess. Taking the Circle line from Kings Cross to Liverpool street one's journey is blighted by the unsightly reminder that TOX felt the need to tag much of the journey in 03.
Such graffiti behaviour can be looked at in much the same way that male deers have antlers, in the same way that some males birds have colourful plumage. Graffiti acts a a vehicle in which said males can try to gain status in their peers eyes, in the hope some chick will think them worthy of copulating with. It really can all be derived back to the basic purpose of sex - as the best defense against parasites and pathogens. So in a sense, we can't blame the poor lads - simply a ugly choice in status gain - for their motives are no different from everyone else's.
- dajaniel0
Good.
I'd like to know if all 6 of them think they're now Banksy-esque legends for sticking it to the Man (the answer is most definitely no).
- Amicus0
the best of graffiti art is fantastic, however the majority is far from fantastic. Tags are the biggest blight, and just show societies gradually loss of respect for anything other than our own desires.
- JourNYC0
They are Fairey(s) in works.
They just gained street cred, in their mind.
- skt0
i'm not sure tox was up in the middle of the night tagging the circle line in an effort to get his hole.
- raf0
Graffiti is vandalism, was there ever doubt about it?
- JourNYC0
There were these kids in front my apartment courtyard that kept skate boarding off the steps to side walk. The doorman chased them off when ever. Now I hear that one kid who did jumped off the step hit a parks car and now suing the building. How? Because building did not do enough to stop them from skate boarding.
I hate skate boarders who thinks that they have the right skate when people are around. I been hit more than 10 times by skate boarders. And 6 coffee on my shirts.
- designbot0
Yes, while there is some great grafitti, most of it is garbage and makes everything look like trash. The people who suck the most are also usually the ones who feel the need to tag without reserve.
Overall I would like to see grafitti in art museums and not all over our cities. But in a sense it's sort of like building skate parks everywhere and expecting skaters to stay off the streets...it's just not the same.
- skt0
dear,
blah blah, etc etc.
outraged, hampshire.
- flashbender0
I reserve the right to pass judgment until I see an example of their work
- sublocked0
Graffiti is vandalism, but it's also art. You can't define it one way or the other, the terms aren't mutually exclusive.
Sucks they got caught, but that's the chance you take for playing the game. If you play sports you take the chance of being injured at one point or another.
Graffiti is dope. Fuck you who don't like it.
- see, you almost make a good point and then fuck it all up with a 'fuck you if you don't like it'.airey
- i really don't care. it's like hardcore music. it is what it is, and doesn't need to bend or conform to your standards, or mine.sublocked
- ...or conform to mine.sublocked
- if you really don't care then why bother making a point. why write here at all?airey
- it's good that you care but you're hardly going to make people think outside their own opinions...airey
- ...if you simply end it with 'fuck you if you don't like it"airey
- not trying to change anyone's opinion. futile. just providing a counter point from someone who lives the life.sublocked
- sublocked0
Also to those who just want to see "graffiti" in museums and art houses - that will never happen.
You can't have the good without the bad. You can't have Banksy and OBEY GIANT without the taggers scratching shit into windows.
Such is life. I love all of it, even if some of it sucks.
- capn_ron0
i just wish the ones who light up my garage had more writing skills. They are terrible.
- get someone decent to piece the entire thing and the dumb kids will stop tagging it with bullshitsublocked
- i'll just keep it a simple brown for now. If they wrote well, i'd leave it up though.capn_ron
- start 'marking' their work..
"This tag is shit. Poor balance, bad letter forms. try harder'.... etc etc. In red pen.mikotondria3 - haha.dMullins
- Corvo20
"I wouldn't mind if graffiti was in Helvetica..."
That would be hell.
- doesnotexist0
graffiti has the option of being art, but most times it's not. just as all the other occupations have possibilities of being called, "art", though most times they are not.
ultimately it's in the eye of the beholder.
- Corvo20
It's just a bunch of kids wanting to be rad or something in the wee hours of the night, with a backpack full of spray cans. Like felizfeliz said, it doesn't go beyond "someone's nick name or notepad doodle". It's all style and nothing and "urban -something". Could be "country -something" but it happens to be "urban -something" because someone kindly said that on television. But in fact it's just one of those things that kids do and that developed into an urban-trend or something. Not that there are not nice intricate pieces of visual work out there, but in general it speaks more of the degeneration of the middle-class into commercialism and how it absorbs aesthetic principles through mass advertising and visual branding than of it's coming to awareness to Art (... I know, I know...) or any other philosophical principle - because there's no philosophy in it.
In short, most is vandalism, ill-education and nothing - but there are also some refined pieces of visual work, which, meaning nothing, have a formal value of itself for creating an atmosphere (which was dubbed urban art - which is as great a concept as having penguin slide contests - those have a blank atmosphere too.)
I really see nothing in graffiti.
- Corvo20
This said, there's no reason to incarcerate people for it. There are certainly other options to make them pay for abusing someone's wall.