Indesign vs Quark dilema
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- Hoax
Having a bit of a dilema between software or something here. I am working on Indesign cs2 on a PC, the file i am working on I save as a PDF, send it through to prepress who work in Quark on Macs. Don't ask why all of this different setups :-s
The PDF goes through fine, they preview it fine, they impose it in Quark and it's all fine. Now when they go to send through to a platemaker from Quark, everything in the PDF jumps out of place, text copies itself and moves around.
I realise this is a bit of a sparse description, but there's no other way to explain it.
Is this a problem with the PDF I'm saving (I've never run into problems before) or is Quark hijacking the PDFs when they export out again?
GAAAAAAHgh... Anyone had a similar headache?
- dyspl0
Which version of quark it is ?
is your PDF version supported once sent through platemaker? maybe too recent?
- Dancer0
What setting do you use in CS2 to export it?
- Horp0
Sounds like a job for Distiller to me.
- The simple 500 step process that literally microwaves your brain.Horp
- distiller, horp?baseline_shift
- Dancer0
- great link, thanks !dyspl
- Yeah, ditto, incase you didn't see it down there, many thanks again for this link :-)Hoax
- bookmarkedalicetheblue
- airey0
no idea but if you have to solve the fucker quick just open the PDFs in photoshop and save tiffs. not the best option but will at least give you files to print fast. only issue is if there's PMS in there.
- Horp0
I would guess the prepress people are working on an old version of Quark that can't handle the pdf. If that's the case then I would stop running round trying to fix it and instead send the prepressers an email telling them to fucking fix it by getting some contemporary software
- ie, why let their shortcomings become your problems...?Horp
- +1,000monospaced
- Hoax0
They're on xpress 7 I believe, we've sent countless PDFs to them before, but all have been 1/2 pages. This is 24pp sent in one PDF. Does Quark have issues with (not very) large files? A few of the pages cause no problem apparently, so perhaps I've done something weird.
- stem0
Sounds like it's more an issue with rip software at their end.
Why are they using quark to do impositions?I'd do what Dancer suggests, do everything as the pass4press instructions, if there's still a problem, it's deffo down to the ripping process.
- Hoax0
No idea why they use quark for impositions, old habits I guess.
They tried some auto imposition software that didn't properly allow for creep and bleeds and never tried again.
I'm running through that PDF (many thanks for link). Otherwise I might just run out of the office and ignore the phone. Zoooom.
- stem0
To be honest, the default "press" setting in InDesign, should give you a pdf, most printers can work with.
- Hoax0
It's what I figured, I've only been involved in the print industry for a couple of years and haven't had a problem til now, want to exhaust all routes to rule out it being my problem.
- stem0
Some printers can be a bit arsey and like to make out it's your fault. If they seem keen to help get to the bottom of the problem, then this is how you tell a good printer from a bad one. If they keep pointing the finger at you, saying it's your fault, find another printer.
Also, don't let your lack of print experience bother you. Like I said earlier, InDesign is (almost) idiot proof at making print ready files.
- Hoax0
Haha, well I am a pretty big idiot at times!
Thanks for the help, going to try a couple more options, If I follow the problem through logically step by step, everything is absolutely fine until it leaves Quark at their end - which would suggest to me the problem is entirely theirs, but sometimes logical thinking backfires hah.
- Brainiac0
Is it only a text issue? have you tried 'creating outlines' of the text? Would suck if it's a big job though.
Tell your printer to buy a copy of Quite imposing plus...or maybe download a trial. I think they offer one that puts 'Trial' across the doc, but you can just delete that in acrobat....well, you could once upon a time.
- Dancer0
by the way PDFx default in Indesign is industry standard settings
- monospaced0
More designers need to realize where their responsibilities end in the process. Yes, of COURSE it's necessary to be able to output the right PDF for your production department and vendors, yes, the knowledge is great to have and it's good to help whenever you can. But this situation is beyond your control.
There is no reason why you should actually have to take time out to solve their problem or find workaround solutions. This is what they are supposed to do well. Ok, I'm ranting, but that's how I feel.
- That's right! Here it is: print this.boobs
- Yes. Print this, but stick around for press checks and quality control. We still need to be involved.monospaced