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- ernexbcn0
Having tobacco freely available to buy doesn't make people smoke, I don't understand what's the fear some people have with that.
I can buy alcohol anytime and I don't even keep beers at home.
- i'm assuming most people who oppose it, are afraid their own kids will have easier access to it. when in reality, those kids are already vaping in schools.sea_sea
- already vaping in school with those infamous e-cigs.sea_sea
- *no relation to e-pills.sea_sea
- Oh god. I've been QBN for like 13 years and I just realized that what e-pill's name means.iCanHazQBN
- ernexbcn0
War on drugs is bullshit, the drugs keep reaching the customers no matter how much money they spent on that "war".
Making the stuff legal will end the violence plus it will become an extra source of income for countries (tax revenue).
- moldero0
if they legalize that shit in mexico they better make a deal and hand production over to the narcos or motherfuckers will die
- ZOOP0
Have you ever considered (in addition to the reasons previously mentioned in this thread) the cartels, who would lose a major source of tax free income? Not only do they bribe customs, border patrol and elected officials, but they will kill anyone that threatens their business.
Imagine being in the position of either taking the bribe, or they come after you and maybe your family or close associations. No wonder some don't even want a debate over the issue.
- <^ weed is still a controlled substance, which ads this into the mix of your "free thinking" argument.sine
- set2
The illegality of consciousness altering drugs should be a shining beacon for those who still cannot see that we are deliberatey being held back and manipulated by our governments. They want us to be good little mindless tax paying workers and this pretty much proves it.
No one has the right to remove our sovereignty over exploration of our own consciousness and everyone knows natural paychedelic drugs pose no threat to others in the community.
Besides, if for whatever reason taking cannabis or mushrooms did turn someone violent or in any way a threat to other people, we already have laws to cover that.
Cannabis to a smaller extent and other natural psychedelic drugs have humbling, life changing and consciousness upgrading effects and all world leaders should do them at least once, let alone everyone else, if they so choose.
There are tribal cultures that know what the structure of DNA looks like, for instance, and tell that the plants taught it to them in their visions.
Definitely something our race needs to explore further rather than literally ruining someone's life with a criminal record for smoking a herb.
- amen to thaternexbcn
- While I agree with you philosophically, I do think that people on mind altering drugs could cause harm.monospaced
- I do agree with you on everything else. I just don't think a lot of the public would be responsible enough.monospaced
- that would apply to drunk people as well right?ernexbcn
- Yes, of course. I just mean that it's much easier and more documented on how to deal with alcohol than drugs.monospaced
- Alcohol is one hundred times more damaging and more antisocial than cannabisset
- The reason it's legal is instead of opening your mind it turns you into an idiotset
- scarabin_net0
that shit is already legal as far as i'm concerned.
- ukit0
Obama should just legalize weed, prostitution and gambling and this whole economic crisis would be over in no time.
- BattleAxe0
meanwhile the Drug Kingpins , have a talk
"On Dec. 11, representatives of several drug cartels met at a seafood restaurant in Culiacán, Sinaloa, to form a truce because the fighting is interfering with the regular business of narco-trafficking, the Rio Doce weekly in Sinaloa reported earlier this month.
The Rio Doce report stated that the gathering included representatives of reputed drug lords Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman, Ismael "El Mayo" Zambada, the Beltran Leyva brothers, Vicente Carrillo Fuentes of the Juárez cartel and the Arrellano Felix family of Tijuana.
The deal among cartels reportedly is supposed to be reviewed Friday.
Meanwhile, the slayings continue in Juárez.
"The number of homicides in the Juárez area has surged past 130 already this month, according to an El Paso Times tally, an increase over the 37 homicides recorded by Chihuahua state investigators in January 2008. Las year, 1,609 homicides occurred.
Juárez is considered the current murder capital of Mexico, but killings have also flared across the state of Chihuahua and in other parts of Mexico. "
- morilla0
Especially now in these times, the steps towards tolerance and decriminalization make the most sense. Imagine how much of taxpayers money would be saved. For gods sake, the drug war costs bijillions and everyone knows it's a joke.
Someone needs to whack them upside their heads and pass them the dutchie on the left hand side.
- morilla0
it just shocks me really. From a post on that thread.
"For a culture that advocates pharmaceuticals and where doctors have become the equivalent of drug pushers, refusing to legalize (at least) relatively benign substances continues to be an absurdity. "
It's almost live the govt. is just holding back until they have figured the right way to make a buck on the deal.
- likemorilla
- oh i'd defintely agree with thatharlequino
- no they holding out so no one besides criminals or people they can treat as criminals can make a buck on itKwesiJ
- they make their money through things that weed would replaceKwesiJ
- studderine0
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- Jaline0
We be burnin' not concernin' what nobody wanna say.
We be earnin' dollars turning 'cause we mind de pon we pay.
Some got gold and oil and diamonds - all we got is Mary J
Legalize it, time to recognise it- imagining you delivering these lines out loud is quite amusing. :)harlequino
- I'm singing it right now.Jaline
- I'm also making the music noises, like for the drums.Jaline
- Then I am quite amused.harlequino
- hahahaha... listen to jaline!
hahahahahaMeeklo - ooOOoo jaline 8-mile is thattawaybrandelec
- KwesiJ0
forget legalising weed, hemp should be the new wonder substance of the future but instead we get new plastics and bio fuel shuved down our throats. it could be a huge growth industry if it was ever seroiusly prusued, soo cheap and usefull.
- harlequino0
But does anyone think that the weed, pot, drug factor is more of a distraction to keep the two sides of the morality line bickering?
It seems to me that the financial implications to the paper and textile industries alone hold far deeper ramifications for legalization. Suddenly a cheap, multi faceted, easily, renewable resource is once again a huge competitor in those and other industries.
- Nobody actually wants products made from hemp. They want products made from cotton.boobs
- BattleAxe0
what gets to me is that they wont even talk about it, and then they threaten funding ,
"Mayor John Cook vetoed the resolution and Rep. Silvestre Reyes, a Democrat who represents El Paso in Congress, lobbied each councilmember, making it clear that if the resolution calling for a debate passed, El Paso would risk losing money in the upcoming stimulus legislation. Five Texas House representatives made the same threat."
- morilla0
I would love to say yes. But I really doubt it. Not while we still have the Bible Belt and Middle America mentality.
- BattleAxe0
you know our City Council here in the Border Land, voted to have a open Discussion about legalizing , or de-criminalizing , all they wanted was to be able to bring this issue to the table, with the unprecedented violence just across the border , they wanted to hear all possible solutions. The Mayor vetoed that resolution and said this
"O’Rourke said Mayor John Cook told him he vetoed the resolution because he was concerned that couldn’t take it to the office of U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison without getting laughed at over it.
Cook says the resolution was intended to become part of the city’s federal legislative agenda that he, other officials and the city’s lobbyists in Washington present to U.S. Rep. Silvestre Reyes, Texas two senators and others for congressional action.
“That was one of my biggest concerns and one of the reasons I vetoed it,” Cook said. “I don’t think we’re going to bet any national traction on that with everything affecting the country right now, like the war in Iraq, the economic stimulus package, bailouts of major industries.
“We’re not going to have people in Congress debating the legalization of narcotics. Will people take us seriously if we present these arguments? I think the answer is no.” "
- horton0
Canada > yes
USA > no