The Vignelli Canon 1616 Responses

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• Rushmore

  http://www.vignelli.com/home/boo…

  Posted in the PC section by moveinspace, but I felt this definitely deserved a spot in the PV as well. Its a highly recommended read for designers at any level and is completely free to download.

  Any thoughts on the content from people who have started or finished reading it?

  Jan 11, 09, 2:08 p.m. – Permalink

• magnificent_ruin

  thanks--downloading now

  

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  Dog-earJan 11, 09, 2:11 p.m. – Permalink

• mikejjj

  Yeah, I read it, very informative!

  • you read?– tank021/2

    iRead– mikejjj2/2

  

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  Dog-earJan 11, 09, 2:12 p.m. – Permalink

• moveinspace

  Thanks for the nod Rushmore and I have read about half of it. It really is an essential read and has lots of good information throughout. Plus it's free! I hope some other people will find it useful.

  

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  Dog-earJan 11, 09, 2:15 p.m. – Permalink

• ukit

  What is it?

  • download and see, asshole– mikejjj

  

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  Dog-earJan 11, 09, 2:16 p.m. – Permalink

• gramme

  I read it, strong stuff. I don't agree with every single thing he says, but I think at least 90% of it is timeless wisdom for anyone who makes things for a living, not just graphic designers.

  

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  Dog-earJan 11, 09, 2:26 p.m. – Permalink

• Rushmore

  Its a PDF version of Massimo Vignelli's book on design, The Vignelli Canon. Covers plenty of different topics including grids for letterheads, grids for books, typefaces, text alignment, scale, texture, color, responsibility, equity, timelessness, etc.

  Vignelli has a huge client list, spanning the entire world and a ton of recognizable, successful work.

  http://www.vignelli.com/

  

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  Dog-earJan 11, 09, 2:26 p.m. – Permalink

• magnificent_ruin

  my first impression is that it's poorly written. I'm sure it will contain good information, but that information will be harder to grasp because of Vignelli's poor writing.

  • I think you are a stupid.– mikejjj1/7

    :)
    
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    kidding!
    
    – mikejjj3/7

    LOL– magnificent_ruin4/7

    you're growing on me– magnificent_ruin5/7

    hahah– janne766/7

    *ruffles MikeJ's hair– magnificent_ruin7/7

  

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  Dog-earJan 11, 09, 2:27 p.m. – Permalink

• magnificent_ruin

  kind of ironic that as a writer he is guilty of the same ignorance of the form he criticizes unskilled designers of

  

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  Dog-earJan 11, 09, 2:33 p.m. – Permalink

• gramme

  Rand I agree, the writing is poor. I know English is his second language, but he's been working in the States for decades... and even if he struggles with the language, I'm sure he could afford a proofreader!

  Also, the punctuation is sloppy. One of my biggest pet peeves is incorrect and inconsistent use of dashes, and this book is all over the place.

  At least the ideas are sound...

  • it kind of calls into question his central thesis– magnificent_ruin1/5

    Very solid ideas.– Rushmore2/5

    slapdash quality– magnificent_ruin3/5

    perhaps he's not used to typesetting his own documents– magnificent_ruin4/5

    true... haha & slapdash. Prey on words!– gramme5/5

  

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  Dog-earJan 11, 09, 2:39 p.m. – Permalink

• tank02

  Rand=magnificent ruin?
  Well i'll be damned...

  • Welcome to the waking world– gramme1/7

    LOL! are you serious tank?– janne762/7

    look i don't follow to much of the drama here, guys...– tank023/7

    no wonder you never respond to my supportive comments!– magnificent_ruin4/7

    aight...– janne765/7

    we need a list for this sort of thing..– janne766/7

    In tank's defense, I just realized a couple weeks back that Horp = spookytim.– gramme7/7

  

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  Dog-earJan 11, 09, 2:40 p.m. – Permalink

• janne76

  hell, even I, as a shitty english writing dutchie can see a lot of mistakes in his copy. why didn't he have it checked?

  "Creativity needs the support of knowledge to be
  able to perform at its best."

  • it's almost like a joke--he's pontificating about quality– magnificent_ruin1/7

    while using the most slapdash prose and typesetting– magnificent_ruin2/7

    perhaps he's gone senile?– magnificent_ruin3/7

    must be.. like most graphic designer sooner or later..– janne764/7

    for me it happened a little sooner, that i know..– janne765/7

    *slaps self– janne766/7

    me too, me too– magnificent_ruin7/7

  

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  Dog-earJan 11, 09, 2:43 p.m. – Permalink

• janne76

  

  

  • tsk tsk, vernacular design– magnificent_ruin1/3

    massimo would not approve– magnificent_ruin2/3

    masimo aproof not will– janne763/3

  

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  Dog-earJan 11, 09, 2:48 p.m. – Permalink

• moveinspace

  I will never post a design thread for English professors ever again:)

  • don't get me wrong, it's a valuable document, and I'm glad you posted it– magnificent_ruin1/2

    ahhh Rand you're always good with me, plus you and Gramme do have some good points about the proofreading.– moveinspace2/2

  

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  Dog-earJan 11, 09, 2:51 p.m. – Permalink

• gramme

  It's a great book, it's just... ironic I guess? The sloppiness is not merely linguistic, as I mentioned above.

  If I was going to publish a book of my thoughts on design, I'd sure as hell hire a proofreader. I'm a detail hound, but having fresh eyes that hold to a different set of values is a tremendous help.

  

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  Dog-earJan 11, 09, 3:12 p.m. – Permalink

• Rushmore

  He does say "God is in the details." but I'm willing to overlook it...

  • crisis of faith– magnificent_ruin1/3

    I meant it more along the lines of apparently the details are very important to him but he overlooked all the linguistic ones.– Rushmore2/3

    I got ya--agreed– magnificent_ruin3/3

  

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  Dog-earJan 11, 09, 4:04 p.m. – Permalink

• D_Dot

  I'm really enjoying this so far. Thanks!

  

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  Dog-earJan 11, 09, 4:39 p.m. – Permalink