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  • joyride

    Just out of curiosity... what's the job market like? Are people jumping ship and moving out or sticking around pushing through?

    Seems like most good people are leaving for a more stable market.

    ????

    Dec 11, 08, 7:29 a.m. – Permalink
  • d_rek

    It's pretty volatile right now... most of the bigger agencies have made large cuts to creative staff. Smaller botique studio's are faring better - that is if they're not reliant upon automotive. All in all there are a lot of 'creatives' on the market in the area right now...

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    Dog-earDec 11, 08, 7:38 a.m. – Permalink
  • joyride

    are these 'creatives' any good or are all the good people being horded? I hear CE is having mass exodus... along with other major agencies...

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    Dog-earDec 11, 08, 7:52 a.m. – Permalink
  • d_rek

    Team Detroit (Wunderman, Ogilvy, J. Walter Thompson, YWR + Mindshare), BBDO and Campbell-Ewald have all made some pretty huge cuts recently. I believe CE recently let go of about 160 creatives and not long before that, BBDO did about the same. Even some smaller places like Organic are letting people go...

    Whether or not these 'creatives' are any good is subjective I suppose... but really those places have thrived on automotive for years... it's their bread and butter.

    If those creatives can't adapt or be entrepreneurs then I supposed it's no big loss either way. Are all the 'good' creatives being horded? Well I think good creative is always in demand, but part of what makes them good is being able to work outside of the box and not be nailed down to a corporate office environment that is solely dependant upon the automotive industry in this state - Michigan has so much more to offer than just automotive.

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    Dog-earDec 11, 08, 8:22 a.m. – Permalink
  • d_rek

    Team Detroit (Wunderman, Ogilvy, J. Walter Thompson, YWR + Mindshare), BBDO and Campbell-Ewald have all made some pretty huge cuts recently. I believe CE recently let go of about 160 creatives and not long before that, BBDO did about the same. Even some smaller places like Organic are letting people go...

    Whether or not these 'creatives' are any good is subjective I suppose... but really those places have thrived on automotive for years... it's their bread and butter.

    If those creatives can't adapt or be entrepreneurs then I supposed it's no big loss either way. Are all the 'good' creatives being horded? Well I think good creative is always in demand, but part of what makes them good is being able to work outside of the box and not be nailed down to a corporate office environment that is solely dependant upon the automotive industry in this state - Michigan has so much more to offer than just automotive.

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    Dog-earDec 11, 08, 8:23 a.m. – Permalink
  • d_rek

    Team Detroit (Wunderman, Ogilvy, J. Walter Thompson, YWR + Mindshare), BBDO and Campbell-Ewald have all made some pretty huge cuts recently. I believe CE recently let go of about 160 creatives and not long before that, BBDO did about the same. Even some smaller places like Organic are letting people go...

    Whether or not these 'creatives' are any good is subjective I suppose... but really those places have thrived on automotive for years... it's their bread and butter.

    If those creatives can't adapt or be entrepreneurs then I supposed it's no big loss either way. Are all the 'good' creatives being horded? Well I think good creative is always in demand, but part of what makes them good is being able to work outside of the box and not be nailed down to a corporate office environment that is solely dependant upon the automotive industry in this state - Michigan has so much more to offer than just automotive.

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    Dog-earDec 11, 08, 8:24 a.m. – Permalink
  • d_rek

    triple theat WTF

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    Dog-earDec 11, 08, 8:24 a.m. – Permalink
  • 3point14159

    Unfornately Detroit is beyond help. Considered the most depressing place in America according to Forbes and is always in the running for most dangerous place and murder capital in the U.S. year after year.

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    Dog-earDec 11, 08, 8:29 a.m. – Permalink
  • d_rek

    It's probably true that Detroit is beyond help... As for what Forbes thinks of Detroit... well, you'd have to live and work in Detroit to really appreciate it. It has a unique vitality and soul all of it's own... As far as safety goes.. well.. just like any other major city, there's places you go and places you don't. It also helps to be armed when you come to the city... it will at least give you peace of mind.

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    Dog-earDec 11, 08, 8:33 a.m. – Permalink
  • _niko

    Failed city. It's inhabitants are a virus that slowly decayed the city from the inside out.

    http://dykstranet.com/wordpress/wp-content/detroit1.jpg

    • +1d_rek1/3
      I blame the Hillbilly Highway.Mimio2/3
      thats my dream home and its finally being renovated!!!nicole_marie3/3
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    Dog-earDec 11, 08, 8:39 a.m. – Permalink
  • boobs

    I've lived, worked and partied in and Detroit for many, many years. I've never had any trouble.

    The one time in my life when I got mugged at gunpoint was when I vacationed on an exotic, tropical Caribbean Island!

    • Same here... I didn't get mugged but saw plenty of guns when i was in St. Croix, USVI.d_rek1/2
      I got mugged in Turks and Caicos! Gun pointed to the side of my head. Lucky to have survived that vacation!boobs2/2
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    Dog-earDec 11, 08, 8:42 a.m. – Permalink
  • d_rek

    Here's a flickr photoset of mine from around Detroit, mainly the I-75+ferry st. area:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/139…

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    Dog-earDec 11, 08, 8:42 a.m. – Permalink
  • boobs

    For hundreds of years, Rome was almost completely abandoned. Things can change.

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    Dog-earDec 11, 08, 8:45 a.m. – Permalink
  • JamesCullen

    You should take up an instrument. Some of the best music ever made has come Detroit.

    • That's right! There's good rockin' tonight!boobs
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    Dog-earDec 11, 08, 8:49 a.m. – Permalink
  • boobs

    I play instruments! Guitar, keyboards, vocals, Reason and Logic.

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    Dog-earDec 11, 08, 8:51 a.m. – Permalink
  • Mimio

    Job market is frozen. The creative field in this area has been taking a hit since 2002. Digital hasn't contracted too much, mostly traditional media.

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    Dog-earDec 11, 08, 8:53 a.m. – Permalink
  • boobs

    I'm pissed that the government will spend $700 billion to bail out Wall Street, but they won't cough up a tenth of that to help the auto industry.

    • fuck the auto industriecreez
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    Dog-earDec 11, 08, 9:32 a.m. – Permalink
  • digdre

    PUT YO HANDS OMHOOG FOR DETROIT! ILOVETHISCITY

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    Dog-earDec 11, 08, 9:33 a.m. – Permalink
  • joyride

    well thanks for the insight guys... i've got what seems to be a good opportunity there, non-automotive based, interactive and growing... just trying to see if the market is over saturated with creatives/interactives that have been let go and scrambling for anything...

    My general thoughts are that when a company lets people go they keep the better of the groups? no?

    • Just like any business the creative industry trims the fat too.d_rek1/2
      drop me a line when you get into town!d_rek2/2
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    Dog-earDec 11, 08, 11:42 a.m. – Permalink
  • nicole_marie

    I love detroit so much, I wish so badly I could of stayed but I didn't want to be at the mercy of the "big 3" or do their horrible design. I hope to come back one day when its better, and has more industry that doesn't rely on the auto industry.

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    Dog-earDec 11, 08, 11:46 a.m. – Permalink
  • Mimio

    You're probably safe if they're growing right now. There was a little "hire and fire" going on at some of the bigger agencies a few months ago. Basically they'd solicit a job for a lower salary creative and boot the staffer once the secured someone else.

    • It's actually why I gave up trying to find a job at the agencies. They were unrealistic with new hire salaries.Mimio
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    Dog-earDec 11, 08, 11:48 a.m. – Permalink

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