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Detroit Atmosphere? 2222 Responses
Last post: 3 years, 2 months ago | Thread started: Dec 11, 08, 7:29 a.m.
- d_rek
It's pretty volatile right now... most of the bigger agencies have made large cuts to creative staff. Smaller botique studio's are faring better - that is if they're not reliant upon automotive. All in all there are a lot of 'creatives' on the market in the area right now...


- Dog-earDec 11, 08, 7:38 a.m. – Permalink
- d_rek
Team Detroit (Wunderman, Ogilvy, J. Walter Thompson, YWR + Mindshare), BBDO and Campbell-Ewald have all made some pretty huge cuts recently. I believe CE recently let go of about 160 creatives and not long before that, BBDO did about the same. Even some smaller places like Organic are letting people go...
Whether or not these 'creatives' are any good is subjective I suppose... but really those places have thrived on automotive for years... it's their bread and butter.
If those creatives can't adapt or be entrepreneurs then I supposed it's no big loss either way. Are all the 'good' creatives being horded? Well I think good creative is always in demand, but part of what makes them good is being able to work outside of the box and not be nailed down to a corporate office environment that is solely dependant upon the automotive industry in this state - Michigan has so much more to offer than just automotive.


- Dog-earDec 11, 08, 8:22 a.m. – Permalink
- d_rek
Team Detroit (Wunderman, Ogilvy, J. Walter Thompson, YWR + Mindshare), BBDO and Campbell-Ewald have all made some pretty huge cuts recently. I believe CE recently let go of about 160 creatives and not long before that, BBDO did about the same. Even some smaller places like Organic are letting people go...
Whether or not these 'creatives' are any good is subjective I suppose... but really those places have thrived on automotive for years... it's their bread and butter.
If those creatives can't adapt or be entrepreneurs then I supposed it's no big loss either way. Are all the 'good' creatives being horded? Well I think good creative is always in demand, but part of what makes them good is being able to work outside of the box and not be nailed down to a corporate office environment that is solely dependant upon the automotive industry in this state - Michigan has so much more to offer than just automotive.


- Dog-earDec 11, 08, 8:23 a.m. – Permalink
- d_rek
Team Detroit (Wunderman, Ogilvy, J. Walter Thompson, YWR + Mindshare), BBDO and Campbell-Ewald have all made some pretty huge cuts recently. I believe CE recently let go of about 160 creatives and not long before that, BBDO did about the same. Even some smaller places like Organic are letting people go...
Whether or not these 'creatives' are any good is subjective I suppose... but really those places have thrived on automotive for years... it's their bread and butter.
If those creatives can't adapt or be entrepreneurs then I supposed it's no big loss either way. Are all the 'good' creatives being horded? Well I think good creative is always in demand, but part of what makes them good is being able to work outside of the box and not be nailed down to a corporate office environment that is solely dependant upon the automotive industry in this state - Michigan has so much more to offer than just automotive.


- Dog-earDec 11, 08, 8:24 a.m. – Permalink
- 3point14159
Unfornately Detroit is beyond help. Considered the most depressing place in America according to Forbes and is always in the running for most dangerous place and murder capital in the U.S. year after year.


- Dog-earDec 11, 08, 8:29 a.m. – Permalink
- d_rek
It's probably true that Detroit is beyond help... As for what Forbes thinks of Detroit... well, you'd have to live and work in Detroit to really appreciate it. It has a unique vitality and soul all of it's own... As far as safety goes.. well.. just like any other major city, there's places you go and places you don't. It also helps to be armed when you come to the city... it will at least give you peace of mind.


- Dog-earDec 11, 08, 8:33 a.m. – Permalink
- d_rek
Here's a flickr photoset of mine from around Detroit, mainly the I-75+ferry st. area:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/139…

- Dog-earDec 11, 08, 8:42 a.m. – Permalink
- JamesCullen
You should take up an instrument. Some of the best music ever made has come Detroit.

- Dog-earDec 11, 08, 8:49 a.m. – Permalink
- joyride
well thanks for the insight guys... i've got what seems to be a good opportunity there, non-automotive based, interactive and growing... just trying to see if the market is over saturated with creatives/interactives that have been let go and scrambling for anything...
My general thoughts are that when a company lets people go they keep the better of the groups? no?


- Dog-earDec 11, 08, 11:42 a.m. – Permalink
- nicole_marie
I love detroit so much, I wish so badly I could of stayed but I didn't want to be at the mercy of the "big 3" or do their horrible design. I hope to come back one day when its better, and has more industry that doesn't rely on the auto industry.


- Dog-earDec 11, 08, 11:46 a.m. – Permalink
- Mimio
You're probably safe if they're growing right now. There was a little "hire and fire" going on at some of the bigger agencies a few months ago. Basically they'd solicit a job for a lower salary creative and boot the staffer once the secured someone else.

- Dog-earDec 11, 08, 11:48 a.m. – Permalink



