The "R" word?
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- Doorman
Just listened to the radio. The News reader said the R Word? Meaning the Recession....Balls to that....Recession? Media are making people sceptical and scared to spend. There is a problem on the financial market but...come on....
- Khurram0
third quarter unemployment figures the worst in 17 years? come on...?
- Bluejam0
- I would love to see you write a full sentence on here. One that contains a subject, predicate and polysyllabic words.Khurram
- noBluejam
- At least some punctuation then?TheBlueOne
- Don't do it!Peter
- SkyPoo0
Personally, as long as its a recession now, not a depression or a financial crisis I'm fine with that. In a bog standard common-or-garden recession business has to market the crap out of itself, services have to promote the bejeezus out of themselves and retailers have to advertise their nuts off.
Work for thee and me.
BWING IT ON!
- how can you be so sure?Khurram
- i'd have thought advertising is hit hardest during a "down-turn"...Khurram
- Because I'm like a god amongst men.SkyPoo
- it's the opposite, actually.paraselene
- not to spooky, although you might in fact be a man amongst gods...paraselene
- +1
we've never been so busy ! had to take on extra help !23kon - if you do's a good job that is WORTH the money then that word will spread and people will come to you!23kon
- rather than spending money with overpriced bullshit mongerers23kon
- spooky, advertising is running back. i saw this confirmed in a newsstory recently..janne76
- could you link that janne?Khurram
- dutch. sorry.janne76
- don't think i have the link anymore either..janne76
- I have been flat out too with work, I just hope it lasts!slappy
- maximillion_0
its a news reader - probably the same one who told us about Weapons of Mass Destruction
- Doorman0
You all heard about the Icelandic Bank? Mainly Councils and Huge Business have invested into it. In France 600 Millions Euros have disappeared from La Caisse d'Epargne.....but you know the risk when you have shares or Bonds.....It is terrible....but the world is still spinning and as long as you can buy food - pay the rent and surf the web...it is okay. As long as you survive....no worries.
As SkyPoo says Bwing it on
- SkyPoo0
"i'd have thought advertising is hit hardest during a down-turn"
That's exactly it Khurram... we've had the downturn. We've been turning down for six months now. By the time they say "okay, recession time is here" do you think businesses go "Oh no, we've got no chance" and just curl up and dessicate?
NO MAN. OF COURSE THEY DON'T. The get all Dog-Eat-Dog, and they think about their families, and their mortgages, and their pride, and how their potency is tied up in their economic succes and they say I AINT GOIN' OUT LIKE THAT and they get right on the phone to the head of marketing and say "GET ME SOME SELLIN' AIDS BOY", and the great economic cycle begins another slow predicatble revolution.
- I've just doubled my fees.
Wait, I'm halving them again. Someone tell Mervyn King.SkyPoo - youre so convincing, I jumped on the table and gave you a 'hell yeah!' after that little soliliqythebottlerocket
- Mission statement!killthefish
- I've just doubled my fees.
- Doorman0
Money talks...people want it all and over spend....a recession as they say and people realise that they spend on stuff they actually dont need but want.
I work part time and I survive easily coz i choose want I need rather than what i want.
- maximillion_0
a recession is only the equivalent to a detox for the design industry - it gets the rubbish out of the system
- yeah manDoorman
- very true. if you're talented, you're buoyant.paraselene
- Khurram0
I think that's a little naive. Wishful thinking perhaps. Makes some sort of sense based on THAT logic.
But a contraction in the economy affects the entire economy. Marketing and advertising is the last thing on a companies list of things to do to become rich...
But regardless... with all these bankruptcies, with Starbucks closing 600 stores across America - who are you gonna be creating fancy logos/websites for?
If inflation is allowed to get out of hand, like the Bank of England seems to be considering, whose gonna spend the little cash he/she has on creating a stick web-experience???
If fewer people go out, which club is gonna be running a poster campaign with Spooky exclusive artwork i ask you????
- Thjere's more than 600 Starbucks on Oxford Street, that's nothing. They deliberately over did it to kill off the competition. Competition will remerge now.SkyPoo
- competition. How does 600 Starbucks bring you fancy logo commissions anyway?SkyPoo
- its just an example. There's fewer businesses. Less "design" work available.Khurram
- There's newer businesses. Small commissions, but growth to follow. EXCITING TIMESĀ±!!SkyPoo
- SkyPoo0
Its exactly the same as nature's growth cycle. Out of the rotting vegetation of this downturn, exciting new shoots of vibrant business will emerge, it will be cheap and easy for entrepreneurs to usher in the next phase of growth. We have a brand new global communications network infrastructure in place that is just waiting to be exploited for business, commerce and eventually domestic use. It will make Broadband internet seem like morse code, it will require a tidal wave of totally new software development to furnish it. We have an immense incentive now that we are acting upon globally to address our oil dependency. New smaller boutique vehicles using new small boutique fuels and locomotion methods will all need to be invested in, developed, branded, marketed, sold, supported... from that our life styles will change hugely and the knock-on effects will usher in new opportunities for new ideas to be invested in, needing new branding, promoting, marketing, packaging...
These are very very exciting times. I for one am, I for, am...
oh I can't be arsed.
- THIS ALL NEEDS CREDIT!! THERE IS NO LIQUIDITY! NO MONEY IN THE SYSTEMKhurram
- rand new global communications network infrastructure
What that then?roundabout
- Khurram0
and that's just the tip of the iceberg... housing bubble burst, no more housing being built, my flat-mate recent graduate from architecture can't find a job ANYWHERE, and this guy has a 1st distinction in one of the best architecture colleges in London. Broke ass mo-fo i had to lend a tenner.
You wanna do a websites for an architecture firm? who aren't even building houses?
- you had a tenner!?!?!paraselene
- sweets, i'm like swimming in money.Khurram
- Khurram0
god spooky look at you,, how are these "entrepeneurs" gonna get new businesses of the ground? There's no venture capital, dead, gaaaaaah, CREDIT CRISIS, no money to lend to you, gaaaaaaaaahn.
Grasp the implications man - open your eyes! You can't wish this shit away...
- maximillion_0
2 quarters of negative growth - this is the common definition of a recession although some say 3 quarters. We've not had one yet but we can easily panick/talk ourselves into a few
- SkyPoo0
2012 is, like it or not, Olympic Time for the UK. Do you think a recession is going to stop that generating huge, vast, stupendous amounts of work? OF COURSE IT ISN'T. PEOPLE GO NELLY BONKERS WHEN OLYPMICS IS IN TOWN.
Exciting Times. Come on, I'm taking you all out for lunch.
- neue75_bold0
The UK's science minister has urged the government not to abandon investing in science amid the financial crisis... not sure how much weight 'urging' someone carries, but for me, primarily working within science, technology, medicine and education, things might just stay roughly the same...
- and what do you work for neue?
science, technology and medicine? you do, don't you?janne76 - hey yeah, I do... don't I?neue75_bold
- and what do you work for neue?
- maximillion_0
Kuz - some of our clients are buying and searching for businesses to buy at the moment as they see cheap opportunities
- yeah. And i'm reading up on the stockmarket, cos the investment opportunity of a life-time is around the corner..Khurram
- aye - only put in what you can afford to lose mind ;pmaximillion_
- SkyPoo0
Khuzz, Are you that naive that you think ideas will no longer be invested in because 'the economy has got a headache' fuck that mate... venture capitalists will be working the floor like randy ho's.
ITS ALL GOOD. Are you having a starter? I might go for the parma ham and melon...
- Khurram0
little tip for you guys - intellectual property securities...
As brands go out of business, their trademarks will be up-for sale at rock bottom prices. Cash in on them, hold on to them, when the market turns around in 5 years - kerching-ching!!
- as did mike ashley - sorts direct (newcastle utd) - I saw their UK offices the other day - its like selecting a weapon in the matirxmaximillion_
- sports directmaximillion_
- Khurram0
skypoo, i admire your optimism. I'm sure most of us will do just fine. We're an educated elite here. We have jobs, tho less secure, still there. So we might have to scrimp on a few luxuries.. .wotevs,
it's the chavs who will no longer be able to afford Bluberry hats that i feel sorry for :'(
- bluberry? burberry... hehKhurram
- ha, i just had a great image of some pimply guy in a tracksuit grimacing as he tried to keep his wobbly blubber hat on...paraselene