designers are born, not made 3434 Responses

Last post: 2 months, 1 week ago | Thread started: Sep 22, 08, 10:14 p.m.

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• oosmik

  this is an excerpt from "The Love Bucket"

  "Its true, anyone can learn about design the way anyone can learn to dance by clunking his way through . people need rules and systems they need to know that they are doing things right. that their boss won't yell at them. but real dancing comes from deep inside the dancer, and real designing comes from deep inside the designer, and there's really just no recipe for that."

  this article also categorizes designers in two ways: the love bucket or the fear bucket.

  in the love bucket are designers who design from their deep love of the process of life

  and in the fear bucket are the fearful people. the people who try to run the world to make sure that nothing bad happens. and one of the best ways to see what's coming ahead of us is to design the highway.

  what are your thoughts.

  Sep 22, 08, 10:14 p.m. – Permalink

• Amicus

  pseudo intellectual bull shit

  

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  Dog-earSep 22, 08, 10:16 p.m. – Permalink

• hektor911

  Take David Carson for example, nobody told him how to do it right, he followed his insides I guess. I guess he is in the love bucket.

  • and a million others who followed their ignorance create utter shite. many using comic sans.– airey1/2

    I think he‘s in the shit bucket.– pressplay2/2

  

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  Dog-earSep 22, 08, 10:17 p.m. – Permalink

• acescence

  a bit too complex to be so simplified. while things are inherent, we are also products of our environment.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cre…

  

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  Dog-earSep 22, 08, 10:24 p.m. – Permalink

• robotron3k

  "become your dream."
  - de la vega

  • great, did that. now i'm a 2 foot clown with walrus flippers and a lifetime supply of cheese.– airey

  

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  Dog-earSep 22, 08, 10:27 p.m. – Permalink

• MrOneHundred

  What is a Love Bucket?

  • I think my old roommate had one of those.– Point51/3

    it's kinda like herbie the love bug. but it's a bucket.– lambsy2/3

    is like a Bucket fanny?– Leigh3/3

  

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  Dog-earSep 22, 08, 10:29 p.m. – Permalink

• airey

  there's a requirement for a bucket here, i'll give you that...

  

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  Dog-earSep 22, 08, 10:30 p.m. – Permalink

• airey

  put the bucket down, put your hands on yer head and step away from the keyboard…

  

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  Dog-earSep 22, 08, 10:31 p.m. – Permalink

• GeorgesII

  95% of designers have bought "the secret"

  

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  Dog-earSep 22, 08, 10:35 p.m. – Permalink

• airey

  78% of statistics are made up on the spot.

  

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  Dog-earSep 22, 08, 10:45 p.m. – Permalink

• October

  i came buckets

  • in the self-hate bucket?– airey

  

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  Dog-earSep 22, 08, 10:49 p.m. – Permalink

• VectorMasked

  well of course that quote is true.

  but not just for design.

  you need talent to be good a something. Skills just make you ok.

  

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  Dog-earSep 22, 08, 11:37 p.m. – Permalink

• tOki

  I totally agree. I'm sick of people who do a unit in "design" whilst doing their nerdy IT degree and call themselves designers... and anyone else for that matter who needs a university to learn how to be "creative"

  

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  Dog-earSep 23, 08, 12:07 a.m. – Permalink

• lowimpakt

  there are so many design schools because the university gets more funding.

  it's all about the cash.

  

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  Dog-earSep 23, 08, 12:44 a.m. – Permalink

• pascii

  this is the most ridiculous thin i've read in ages. if that's true, we d still live in caves

  • with or without buckets?– airey

  

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  Dog-earSep 23, 08, 1:01 a.m. – Permalink

• kelpie

  Man this is so true I think we should all just take the morning off and touch ourselves for a few hours. We are so GREAT.

  • hehee i like you.– jimzyk

  

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  Dog-earSep 23, 08, 1:13 a.m. – Permalink

• kelpie

  I particularly like the comparison to dancing - I often think of myself, as a designer, as being that perfect mix of physical power, grace, athleticism and timing shared by a truly great dancer.

  

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  Dog-earSep 23, 08, 1:15 a.m. – Permalink

• kelpie

  In other words, what a lot of shite.

  • yeah, but what about the buckets?– airey

  

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  Dog-earSep 23, 08, 1:16 a.m. – Permalink

• Bluejam

  

  

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  Dog-earSep 23, 08, 1:22 a.m. – Permalink

• neue75_bold

  that quoted excerpt is rubbish...

  that said, I do think you can only go so far in the creative realm by learning alone... you could become a very good form-based designer, but being conceptually good is not something you can be taught. Either you have always naturally been inclined to solve problems whether it be through visualization, copy-writing, etc or you learn these things through experience. But generally even through experience can be lead towards developing formulas that push one to repeat the same tactics that prove to be fruitful...

  • "...through experience, designers can be lead towards..."– neue75_bold1/2

    What Does Your Soul Look Like Pt. 4– neue75_bold2/2

  

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  Dog-earSep 23, 08, 2:10 a.m. – Permalink

• kelpie

  To be honest, I think every single one of us has the capacity from birth to operate in these kind of fields, the only 'natural' modifier on this being a basic level of intelligence.

  As a race we are all definitively predisposed to creativity and to problem solving or we would not have progressed as a species in the way that we have. Everything beyond basic intelligence is nurture in my view and I used to be very much in the nature camp. "talent" is a funny thing to define; some people may think in ways which lend themselves more to verbal communication or visual communication, some might 'see' form in such a way that would allow them to reproduce it more accurately given the right training and indulgence - pure creativity and problem solving though is fundamental human trait which is in all of us and there to be developed under the right circumstances. Depends what you're placing the highest emphasis on as the core purpose of 'design' maybe...

  • tl:dr– kelpie

  

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  Dog-earSep 23, 08, 2:21 a.m. – Permalink