CMS: Here we go again!
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- janne76
Now that everyday about a dozen CMS solutions are released we need updates. Good, bad and the ugly.
What I want to know is, which one gives you most freedom in terms of layout, control over design.
One designer was really enthousiastic about http://modxcms.com/ , but I don't want to learn a new system before i am absolutely certain about it's quality and reliability..
so, the system must be out there for the long run, not a one day fly....
(tried zimplit as well, funny, original and very easy, but a bit limited for my taste)
- janne760
For the man in Ludwigsburg, Germany:
- Marcelom0
Indexhibit?
- moamoa0
I have really don´t have a clue about coding & cms... but all the coders I am working with are swearing on Typo3
- wtf.. forget one "have"moamoa
- %&$/&$/moamoa
- Words can't describe how much I hate its interface.ismith
- I never saw it, I don´t want to see it, ever.... I just use my flash interface for my site LOLmoamoa
- moamoa, how is it possible you drive a nice brand new bmw and you can convince clients to pay enough to actually not need to learn shit yourself..janne76
- learn all this yourself. i am amazed. economy must be so good in ludwigsburg.janne76
- and yeah, i agree on typo3, very ugly and hard to install, i heard..janne76
- bmw=leasing. I swear I would quit my job If I would need to learn some codingmoamoa
- ismith0
Are you the only developer?
- airey0
i'm probably the one that talked modx. i used Mallmus ( http://www.qbn.com/Mallmus/ ) from here at QBN to do it for me and it was good.
am looking at this for a new project: http://expressionengine.com/
and have used wordpress for a few smaller projects.
tried working with zenCart - both myself and then using a developer and it's a piece of shit. use that and enjoy the stream of complaints from clients not to mention utter confusion for all parties on why it does and terms things the way it does. it's like it was created by a korean in japanese and then translated to english by a german who doesn't actually speak any of those languages.
dotnet and dotnetnuke are ok but mixed results. personally i hate both but that's a personal thing.
joomla / drupal / etc can kiss my arse. they may evolve into something anyone but self-titled experts and programmers like but even for free i think they're limited and shite. whenever someone says "hey, check out my great site, created in joomla" get ready to hold back the vitriol and vomit.
a really simple option is Adobe Contribute. much underrated, especially as the new version allows inline image edits as well as a plethora of options.
either way you're going to need to pick a horse and go with it or simply involve a developer into the equation.
my 2 cents.
- I'm also looking at Expression Engine at the moment. Would love any feedback you guys have.Amicus
- poolio0
Wordpress works well for me.. pretty easy to customise and the designer has a lot of control... easy install, easy config etc. plus heaps of plugins to choose from.
But I hear other designers talk alot about Expression Engine.. they say its good, but I haven't tried it yet myself.
Big projects are usually built from the ground up (100% custom).
- airey0
yeah, i don't think the trend to create a whole new cms around a project is the best option anymore. there's so many resources now, especially with the renewed interest in very broad and user-generated content solutions like wordpress it seems like it's an extra expense and not to mention pain in the arse to reinvent the wheel.
often when companies said they were creating the CMS from the ground up it was really simply using the dotnet or dotnetnuke packages or crap like joomla / mambo.
saying that, certainly developers using ruby on rails now will be worth looking at though as brief specific solutions become simple bolt-on mods with that language. i'm pretty excited by the options ruby introduces.
fuck i need to get a life. back to solitaire for me...
- yep I agree - I didn't clarify above but I ment 'big projects' as custom ecommerce sitespoolio
- janne760
i see expression engine is today's hype. i may give it a spin.
i fucking hate web design these days, but print work has died here a few years ago.
(client: "well..the printshop lays out our own brochures, blahblah.." GOD I HATE THIS REGION/COUNTRY/WHATEVER..)
- it's not your region alone. budgets keep dropping but expectations don't. fuckers.airey
- you just need to treat them like shit. haha. i got really angry with a client but they kept coming back haha..janne76
- i must be a fresh pile of damping shit and they are the flies...janne76
- they only take and i only shrink and dry out into a miserable nothing..janne76
- rounce0
dotNet != the same fucking ball park as DotNetNuke.
- airey0
rounce:
the difference is that ditnet is microsoft owned and you have to pay license fees, notnetnuke is an opensource of it which means less cost and more user-generated content.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot…
but yes, it's the same ballpark. in a similar way, joomla came from mambo - the change coming from the fact that the license owners of mambo became money hungry schmucks.
- rounce0
airey:
.Net (dotNet) is a free - and now open source - framework from MS for building windows and server side applications.DotNetNuke is a web application programming framework built on dotNet that is meant to be used in much the same manner as ModX to quickly build custom CMS systems.
Gonk.
- janne760
i always tend to creep away out of threads when i read about microsoft.
only once i did something asp related, but never again, pls.
- airey0
haha. same. about 8 yrs ago had to work with an asp developer. downloaded the database to my mac and fucked it. asp and mac didn't play well then. no idea about it nwo.
- _rootlock0
Modx => website framework/cms
Hands down the best. Will start to see alot more people using this framework. Joomla killer.for web applications
cakephp => web application framework.
- welded0
CakePHP is miserable. It's pretty slow at what it does, though what it does out of the box is otherwise easy to grok, but heaven help you if you need to do anything that doesn't have a handy, one-line function. And don't get me started on the 'documentation'...
- _rootlock0
if you have a solid understanding of OOP then cake is amazing. the documentation is crap though.
- amullins0
eZ Publish (www.ez.no) : robust (has a longer learning curve)
Symphony (www.21degrees.com.au/products/s... : easy to use (it you know xsl) and easy to extend but should probably be reserved for smaller projects- www.21degrees.com.au…...amullins
- damnitt to hell- www.21degrees.com.au… find it from there
amullins