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- orangecrunch0
Can somebody tell me where the WARP ZONE is!?!?!?!?!?!?!
- sklassen0
You guys must be talking about my band:
- ninjasavant0
This is serious business.
- lowimpakt0
anyway, surely any self respecting designer that is making shit for powerpoint is on the FAIL train already?
- modern0
"then use the mac equivalent (slideshow?) and say how much better it is than ppt, even though it's the same damn thing"
Least the fonts and shapes are antialiased and kerned nicely
- pylon0
Non-designer types use it as a creative outlet, I think. They just get all excited and pour all of this extra time into dropping clipart all over the place and using one of each transition effect per slide. They're just having fun — at the expense of presentation clarity, etc.
Getting kinda tired of the whole reflection thing, though. It's the drop-shadow of this decade.
- designbot0
In my experience Keynote presentations look way better, but PowerPoint is more robust.
Guys here at my work always take a ton of time and create these great looking Keynote presentations, but in the end...nobody cares.....nobody seems to pay attention. It is just a presentation.....could be different if you are presenting a website or something creative though....and not just company info.
- mikkee19730
and worse, people have become so habituated to PP/KN that it is often the first communication vehicle they choose–even when a simple paragraph would do. (Tufte's white paper, "The Cognitive Style of PowerPoint" is an excellent discussion about this & other shortcomings of [the way people use] the tool).
- Vicentvangogh0
who in there right mind would even bother using PowerPoint in the first place?
- lowimpakt0
as a wise man once said....
"if you can't design well in powerpoint you're just not a good designer"
- you made that shit upmonospaced
- "If you give a mechanic a spoon and he can't fix your car with it, he's just not a good mechanic"T-Dawg
- pylon0
Totally, Ian.
It is possible to make great presentations in either PP or KN but when the inexperienced get their hands on it, things go badly.
That can be said of any software, including *design* software. I guess the thing is that everybody get powerpoint included with office and has a go at designing their dynamic website on it and pawning it off on the hapless.
- ian0
Agree ranger. PP is probably the fucking shit if you're up to your balls in MS programmes all day and comic sans is a little light relief to make the presentation 'pop'. Keynote seems (in my limited and swear-inducing experience) a lot easier to use and to kern text, add better stock animations and is easier to layout a page without things flying all over the gaff. However, they are both fairly shit programmes to use, so Im glad I don't use em more often.
That being said, they both do simple presentations well when handled by someone who has a good eye for design, when a non-designer uses either of things get pear very quickly.
What I truly hate is being given a pp file by a client and told build the website like that. I mean I don't come over to their office and shit on their desks, do i?
- pylon0
Keynote and PP are dangerous to clients because, in my experience, it kind of makes them think that all that fancy AJAX, flash, and video trickery is totally easy.
client: "You just click a couple buttons in Keynote to make pages go all swirly... Why's it gotta cost so much / take so much time in Flash?!?"
designer: "Well, um....."
- briancopeland0
Having just spent a day restyling a PowerPoint presentation I can categorically say it sucks donkeys! It's also shit on a Mac at doing anything other than saying "ta-da, I've opened without destroying your computer"
- Ranger0
Actually - just present in Acrobat.
- Ranger0
Keynote works intuitively whereas powerpoint is the complete opposite. As is word for that matter. I avoid both of them if at all possible. What's wrong with presenting in Keynote and leaving a PDF for the client if they want a copy.
- MrDinky0
keynote f*n. just like powerpoint with less functions
- Kidswift0
why is there such fucking angst around power point. Its a great application for getting across ideas in a quick and coherent way. Especially to someone that has no background in design, its all about the message and getting it across in the limited window of attention you have have with a client. What other application can you customise a presentation on the go or change its format so quickly, I use it on a daily basis and fail to see what the problem is your doing it for the client not you the sooner you get your head around that the less time you will waste debating wether to use it and spend the time on making your presentation as tight as possible... here endith the rant
- I agree with this guykelpie
- I'm a freakin' designer, therefore PowerPoint is a joke! I'm mad because they won't take a PDF!monospaced
- I agree.Jaline