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• janne76

  how is life in germany? how is the rent? industry? mentality? north/south/east/west, what's best?

  i keep reading it is so much cheaper than the netherlands, and not so incredibly densely populated as the netherlands, and that the people are less rude and aren't as agitated in everything as they can be here...

  i am longing for a new environment..

  *sigh

  Sep 13, 08, 8:45 a.m. – Permalink

• cosmik

  same questions about the netherlands...

  • you perhaps better ask Mike. I don't have an objective view of this country anymore.– janne761/3

    who is mike. i hope he can help.– cosmik2/3

    neue 75 bold.. he posts in the blog thread every now and then..– janne763/3

  

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  Dog-earSep 13, 08, 8:48 a.m. – Permalink

• Marcelom

  you dont have family?

  • hardly. why?– janne761/4

    pretty much on my own. only my mom and a sister. they pretty much have their own lives as well..– janne762/4

    there's a lot of pain in the family.– janne763/4

    ok - that explains– Marcelom4/4

  

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  Dog-earSep 13, 08, 8:51 a.m. – Permalink

• neverblink

  I know Berlin has been pretty popular among creatives the last couple of years..

  What has happened Janne, one poldermodel too many?

  • yeah well.. i don't talk about it with dutch people anymore. most seem still happy. i am not. period.– janne76

  

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  Dog-earSep 13, 08, 8:52 a.m. – Permalink

• Nairn

  Have you considered moving to another part of Holland, friend? Renting a house in a city and losing yourself? (Though, I can imagine, from the little I know of you, that might actually be the wrost thing you could do..!)

  Speaking from my own experience, I find it easy to extrapolate problems in my own local sphere to that of the generality - perspective is everything.

  Are the problems borne of your environment, or your mental state?

  • oh here we go again. "it's all inside your head, janne" *sigh...– janne761/7

    i like trees, forests, silence, open spaces.. all the things we don't have here anymore.– janne762/7

    I AM SIMPLY DIFFERENT FFS. WHEN WILL PEOPLE UNDERSTAND?– janne763/7

    K, 'mental state' was a harsh term to use, I apologise. But, you know what I mean.– Nairn4/7

    yes– janne765/7

    You're a different person, living in a small place - seems to me like that's your problem.
    Move. Soon.– Nairn6/7

    i do not dislike living in a small place. i wish i had more air to breathe..– janne767/7

  

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  Dog-earSep 13, 08, 8:53 a.m. – Permalink

• janne76

  germany is my no.1 fave to move to...

  • move to cologne– digdre1/4

    it's one of the options..– janne762/4

    don't option, just do it.
    – digdre3/4

    ughmmm– Marcelom4/4

  

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  Dog-earSep 13, 08, 8:54 a.m. – Permalink

• Marcelom

  moamoa is a studio, right?

  • he is also a member here..– janne761/8

    yes– digdre2/8

    you are in love with him?– Marcelom3/8

    yes, he's my god– digdre4/8

    Im talking to Janne– Marcelom5/8

    oh, lol.– digdre6/8

    he's a god guy to talk with and a german as well..– janne767/8

    *good guy– janne768/8

  

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  Dog-earSep 13, 08, 8:55 a.m. – Permalink

• janne76

  i prefer living outside of a good bigger city.. somewhere in a smaller town/village...

  • Ludwigsburg!– moamoa

  

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  Dog-earSep 13, 08, 8:57 a.m. – Permalink

• cosmik

  i hear germany is good...have a few friends who have moved there, just don't know specifics at the moment. how about a trip?

  

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  Dog-earSep 13, 08, 8:57 a.m. – Permalink

• Russell_Sprout

  I knew a guy in Holland and he love/hate-fucked the place.

  From what I know, Germany is not the answer. From those that I have meet in passing, I can say the Dutch are funny/strange indeed, they seem perennially content, but something must be brewing under those white pants and golf shirts?

  • yes indeed. something foreigners know very little about. there's a lot of growing discontent here..– janne761/4

    but you just said – " i don't talk about it with dutch people anymore. most seem still happy. i am not. period."– Russell_Sprout2/4

    you should be happy then to share kindred spirit!– Russell_Sprout3/4

    i can't identify with mentality here..– janne764/4

  

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  Dog-earSep 13, 08, 8:57 a.m. – Permalink

• digdre

  germany isn't good at all.

  • why.?– Marcelom1/13

    all movies are dubbed!!!! duhh– digdre2/13

    what an asshole– Marcelom3/13

    me?
    i'm serious. all movies/series are dubbed/voice ovr.– digdre4/13

    digdre stop acting 19 in all these threads.– janne765/13

    we know that they are, digdre, but it's not really important, right? ffs...– janne766/13

    yeah...– Marcelom7/13

    janne chill out.– digdre8/13

    uhhhh,,,,,,,,,– Marcelom9/13

    ....– janne7610/13

    LOL– ismith11/13

    ...– ismith12/13

    ha– jimzyk13/13

  

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  Dog-earSep 13, 08, 8:58 a.m. – Permalink

• digdre

  stay in brugge

  

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  Dog-earSep 13, 08, 8:59 a.m. – Permalink

• Russell_Sprout

  De molen gaat niet om met wind die voorbij is.

  • dont understand dutch :(:(:(:(– Marcelom1/2

    "The windmill doesn't care for the wind that's gone past."– Russell_Sprout2/2

  

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  Dog-earSep 13, 08, 9:01 a.m. – Permalink

• janne76

  wow.. a list of pro's and con's for dutch people wanting to move to germany, quite impressive how many pro's there are, and so little con's

  http://www.ikganaarduitsland.nl/…

  • de BTW is wel hoger nu– digdre1/3

    hmmm.. hoe hoog?– janne762/3

    btw klopt niet op die domme site, grr.... hier wel denk ik: http://www.accountvi…– janne763/3

  

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  Dog-earSep 13, 08, 9:01 a.m. – Permalink

• Greedo

  how's your deutsch?
  Germany is pretty big, there's a pretty large cultural difference between the lutheran north and the catholic south and of course the ex-communist east. There's still tons of money being pumped into the eastern part, so there's lots of growth opportunities there.
  Berlin obviously is the most happening city, but i'm sure you could find work in any other metropolis, Hamburg, Munich, Frankfurt, Stuttgart, Cologne etc.
  Maybe take a train tour to see which city seems the best fit for you? In terms of looks, feel, mentality...

  • great answer, thanks Greedo. I have been thinking about taking a train tour along cities, indeed..– janne761/3

    my german is fairly ok (basic), even though i should learn a lot more, but i don't mind..– janne762/3

    you guys blow my mind with your command of language– hallelujah3/3

  

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  Dog-earSep 13, 08, 9:06 a.m. – Permalink

• kodap

  / off-design related
  Berlin is kicking the best Fine-arts environment in Europe these days. lots a galleries and cool new artists emerging.

  • Ohhh!– Marcelom1/2

    yes, i like berlin for that. i am an art freak! :D– janne762/2

  

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  Dog-earSep 13, 08, 9:08 a.m. – Permalink

• janne76

  actually i wanted to go to Switzerland but that is too hard to do. And a lot more expensive. Even though it is cheaper when you are rich, which i am not.. and it is not EU, so harder as well..

  • what about austria? vienna is beautiful city, perhaps a bit conservative...– Greedo1/4

    NO ART– Marcelom2/4

    woah, there's a LOT of art stuff going on lately in Vienna. A friend of mine has contributed to exhibitions several times recently..– janne763/4

    i don't mind the city being conservative. and vienna is indeed very nice. but a bit too far perhaps, dunno..– janne764/4

  

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  Dog-earSep 13, 08, 9:13 a.m. – Permalink

• Russell_Sprout

  I say make the best with where you are, things are shitty everywhere and generally in one way or another, basically the same. Life is what YOU make it and not those around you.

  • or move around a bit and make the same conclusion.– Russell_Sprout1/2

    why is everyone allowed to move except for me.. *boooohoooooo– janne762/2

  

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  Dog-earSep 13, 08, 9:16 a.m. – Permalink

• Marcelom

  rite... good advice.. keep doing where you are.. maybe travel is the solution of your mental ill...

  • but just travel.. dunno, maybe 6 months in Berlin.. then back– Marcelom1/3

    also an option, cheers...– janne762/3

    cheers to you too.. and good luck! All the best for you.– Marcelom3/3

  

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  Dog-earSep 13, 08, 9:17 a.m. – Permalink

• kodap

  spain (Madrid or BCN) is a nice choice. but much less average of people who can speak english than the nordic/benelux countries

  

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  Dog-earSep 13, 08, 9:18 a.m. – Permalink

• Marcelom

  BCN rocks! I was there

  

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