clients pay for fonts
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- dog_opus0
If I don't have it, I'm not going to eat it. Too expensive.
Sorry to hear you're leaving the business, janne, but you probably know best what you need. To quote Patterson Hood: "The secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits
Better roll 'em now before something else goes wrong"
- ukit0
I hope you are not quitting the biz because of shitty clients. You shouldn't let other people's idiocy affect your life. On the other hand, if you are just ready to move on, more power to ya.
- johndiggity0
honestly, write a self-promo primer/what to expect and give it to all your clients. outline, the process you use, the costs they can expect to incur, and what they should expect. 90% of the biz is managing expectations, on your side and theirs. most clients are ignorant to the whole process, and i'm sure they'll appreciate the honesty upfront. treat it as another opportunity to grow your brand.
- set0
Clients pay for fonts just like they would have to pay for building materials.
- Good analogy.Nairn
- Well put. But they will always counter with "Why pay for some of the materials when you got them for free too?"VectorMasked
- olli1010
Yeah - agreed. If we're scoping something out for a client and we know they want a custom typeface or something special, the cost of the font set is usually included in the budget.
If, for example, you're designing a site that suddenly needs to have foreign character sets (Turkish, Greek, etc...) and it's not included in the current build - the client should pay for that.
All part of the brand identity. :-)
- Witt0
I have to say I feel much the same as janne. Anyway, back in the day when I did some freelance I found out the client may want to buy a typeface if it will be useful for other applications and projects - e.g. architects may want to buy a specific font to use in their own cad prints, etc. On the other hand, I'm not sure if it's a good idea that clients keep/buy the fonts, because then it would be virtually impossible to control their dissemination.
- janne760
thanks for kind words/advice etc. very true points here, but none of these i did not think of already. even if i provided my clients with a primer'ish thing they would pretend to read it and put it aside and ask if i could fix them a website and logo in two weeks max. without delivering content on time.
i really feel this extended communication is not possible anymore here, for reasons i can't put my finger on, except the fact that i feel the whole country is a little bit burned out lately and it is all about quick and dirty (and cheap!).
I just need to get out, especially the web bit, which i never really liked, yet, that is what clients need here, the rest they let slam together by printshops who do "layout/design" these days too.
I have been amazed that no matter how cultural/educated/exclusive a company/institution is here, their graphic design standard is really below anything.
I must also admit I am not in Amsterdam, for those that wonder. But even there I noticed less interesting things lately. Or maybe I am not able to see it anymore, being so worn ouot by this whole web crap.
I am moving back to photography, as still quite a few people know me for being that, as I was before moving into graphic design. And I don't want it being too late... When everyone looks at me and think "hey, webdesigner!", it is really too late. I must step out now.
I don't have as much a tight portfolio as a lot of photographers have here, or i see posted here, but that is not really relevant, the market here is non-urban, not much media here either. You'd need to focus on company work or art (for on the company walls), some photographers do well like that here....
Oh well, I'll see whatever comes on my path, and hopefully I will be able to steer it in a interesting direction.
- janne760
http://www.qbn.com/topics/565615…
alright, i get the message..
- janne760
*sobs
- cast0
i'm with u mate
its shit i know and when u try explain it to them, their like "just use arial or something" its a fuckin joke half the time but i suppose it only makes me better by coming up with creative ideas using the basics
- formed0
If there is a big budget, then I don't ask
If there is barely a budget, I ask (and haven't gotten a "sure, I'll spend $300 for a font", although, I should note, that I do get clients to pay for unique/custom 3D models, like a specific military vehicle or car that isn't in our library)
- alicetheblue0
janne76
you have voiced my opinion of the business as well.
glad i am not alone.Good wishes,
alice
- gramme0
If my church was willing to shell out the dough for Mercury, than any client should pay for stinking fonts.
I find that buddying up well with the marketing people helps.