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- yuekit2
Republicans prepare to vote on Obamacare repeal again...this time without waiting to see how much it would cost or how many people will lose coverage
- Not only that, there's an exemption in it for themselves. Fucking hell. What a bunch of cunts.monoboy
- http://thehill.com/h…monoboy
- and...
https://www.rawstory…Bluejam - ^ wow.monoboy
- utopian1
President Trump Was 'Directly Involved' in Hunt for Tweeter of Inauguration Crowd Photo
- Like Elmer Fudd hunting Bugs Bunny.face_melter
- Trumps such a little bitchmonospaced
- yuekit1
Trump will sign an executive order Thursday designed to make it easier for religious groups to participate in politics. A senior administration official told reporters Wednesday night that the order directs the IRS to "exercise maximum discretion" in enforcing the Johnson Amendment, which prohibits groups with tax-exempt status from endorsing candidates.
- RIP Separation of Church and State.Continuity
- Gotta fight isis head-to-head. let's all get our God on.Gnash
- OUR god? what the fuck are you on about?scruffics
- It's a word play on an idiom, Gotta get our 'game' on. was been facetious, chill yooz titsGnash
- monoboy1
Big data companies are helping dirty politicians influence the opinions of gullible people for large amounts of cash, in order to swing elections.
They're being investigated now, but have been doing it for years because our civil service is only just waking up to it.
The internet is now so awash with shite, it's impossible to know what's real or fake anymore.
Scary times people. Pour yourself a drink...
- Replace "Big Data companies" with Advertising Agencies. Also true.Gnash
- Also as we have been let down by governments for so long. I cant help but feel this is a ditch effort to get people to comply again.mugwart
- Yes, late capitalism. You can just imagine Trumps reaction when briefed on it by Bannon.monoboy
- Advertising pioneered it. Secret service use it to find and influence terrorists. And now politicians use it to win elections.monoboy
- big data is way more scary than all the other traditional technological fears.fadein11
- out of curiosity are any of u guys part of big data? app'd in with phone geo locations or social always connected?deathboy
- and interesting thought mugwart. what has gov let us down on? personally i think gov hasnt let us down at all. its us who has relied on an idea that has let usdeathboy
- down. why do we think gov is more capable in private enterprise than free markets? unless you want bubbles.. but historically they have only corrupted and ruinddeathboy
- goes back to the basic tenets of why a gov? what does it provide and why? an arbiter of fair rules, of justice, of reason and hearing of disagreements.deathboy
- what gov role is now is far from the conception it was ever intended. to me its like a prom king/queen cliche trying to control the highschool of a nationdeathboy
- fuck those upptiy cunts who have no idea of life. fighting for causes they know nothing about, only focusing on the parties for the causes. stop relying on themdeathboy
- what deathboy is saying is, "fuck trump and his admin, he shouldn't be fucking with the internet, and anyone who voted for him or supports him is a moron."monospaced
- Gnash4
"If this is the budget deal we get when Republicans control the House, the Senate and the presidency, there's no point in ever voting for a Republican again," -- Ann Coulter
- sted-1
- BusterBoy2
Pre-existing conditions apparently no longer covered under Trumpcare include those previously treated for domestic violence.
Good thing there's no war on women. Imagine what that would look like.
- They're covered for congress members who have to be swayed. Look up the Upton Ammendment. :(monospaced
- This is serious folks... A man is the victim of domestic abuse every 37.8 seconds in America.robotron3k
- Yup, T and Co. are gutting America and giving handouts to the ultra privileged. Fuck America, fuck the citizens.formed
- this is really fucked upmonospaced
- cue omg/robotard vile response here.fadein11
- cue IRN, the unofficial Spicer stand-inmonospaced
- Bankrolling health care for illegal immigrants is a tough job. Hiding the genetic testing coupon doesn't help either. The two should go together.omg
- Throw in those with serious conditions, or if you're over 65 should be asked if they want to receive the genetic testing coupon to offset thousands of dollars.omg
- omfgmonospaced
- lolRamanisky2
- http://ei.marketwatc…IRNlun6
- this dumb piece of fucking despicable right-wing extreme shit ACTUALLY thinks that taking a genetic test offsets anything meaningful ... what a DUMB FUCK omgmonospaced
- BonSeff0
Does anybody know when the hour-long debate in the house is today? And if there is a stream?
- BonSeff1
Thankfully this bill is DOA in the senate but jesus man...
- since19792
- "ehhh, FUCK IT"
love that dleivery. lolRamanisky2 - The bums will always spell lose incorrectly. My advice to you is to do what your parents did; get a dictionary, sir.Fax_Benson
- "ehhh, FUCK IT"
- yuekit2
What's actually in the GOP health care bill
Imposes a mandate by another name
The legislation expunges Obamacare’s unpopular individual mandate requiring most Americans to have health insurance. But in its place, the bill allows insurers to charge people who have been uninsured for about two months a 30 percent surcharge on their premiums, an incentive designed to encourage people to maintain insurance coverage.
Gives tax breaks to the wealthy
The bill gifts wealthy Americans with massive tax cuts in the hundreds of billions of dollars. It scraps most of Obamacare’s taxes that are used to fund the law — including two taxes on high-income earners.
Defunds Planned Parenthood for one year
The bill includes a provision long-sought by Republicans to cut off federal funding from Planned Parenthood and other abortion providers. The measure would block Medicaid reimbursements to those organizations for one year after enactment. The bill also includes a measure that would prohibit federal tax credits from being used to pay for insurance that covers abortion services.
Allows older Americans to be charged more
Under Obamacare, insurers can’t charge a 64-year-old more than three times as much as it does a 21-year-old. The GOP plan would let insurers charge older customer five times as much. And in states that waive that rule, insurers could establish an even higher ratio. Low-income older Americans in particular would also receive far less generous subsidies to purchase insurance compared to what’s available in Obamacare.
Allows sick Americans to be charged more
States could opt out of Obamacare’s required set of benefits or — most significantly — allow insurers again to charge some sick patients more for coverage, if they take steps such as setting up high-risk pools so that people with pre-existing conditions would have access to coverage. The latest amendment would provide an additional $8 billion over five years to help people in such states cover premium spikes but analysts say that is likely to be woefully inadequate. The wild card here is how many states would actually opt out.
Likely will mean benefit cuts for Medicaid recipients — or cause states to cough up more money
The law cuts federal funding for Medicaid by $880 billion, or 25 percent, over 10 years, and states could choose a “per-capita cap” or block grants under the most dramatic changes in Medicaid financing since its creation. Many of the groups that rely on Medicaid, which covers about 75 million low-income people from babies to nursing home patients, are likely to see benefit cuts as a result.
Could cut school services for disabled children
School superintendents, who rely on $4 billion a year in Medicaid money to hire staff and provide services to children with disabilities, say the bill’s cuts to Medicaid could hamper their ability to employ nurses, social workers, occupational therapists and psychologists and to offer services such as hearing and eye tests.
Could weaken employer sponsored insurance
A single state’s decision to weaken or eliminate its essential health benefit standards could weaken the ACA’s guarantee of protection against catastrophic costs for people with coverage through large employer plans in every state, according to some health policy experts. The ACA prevents employer plans from putting annual limits on the amount of care they will cover, and it bars lifetime limits on 10 essential benefits. But the Obama administration said that employers aren’t bound by the benefits mandated by their state and can pick from another state’s list of required benefits. Employers would be free under the House bill to choose the benefits available in a state that sought a waiver from the ACA’s benefit requirements.
- Disgusting.
And yet, the stupid will applaud.kona - This is all being lobbied from health care providers. So not only are the politicians snakes, but the health care companies that we seek help from are worse.instrmntl
- doctors hated obamacaresince1979
- And all this benefits the average American? Dumb Trump supporters get blinded by "Repeal & replace Obamacare" with no concept of what happens next.BusterBoy
- It used to be a high-income earner. I wonder if the tanning industry will be bounce back from all those jobs losses thanks to Obamacare.omg
- *correction
t used to be a high-income earner. I wonder if the tanning industry will be able to bounce back from all those jobs losses thanks to Obamacare.omg - BusterBoy, maybe you can ask the politicians of your state. Oh whoops, bigoted concern came from a non-American. never mind, you didn't actually care.omg
- Fuck you omg...you have no idea the connection I have with the US. But don't let that minor detail get in your way.BusterBoy
- omg = Trump's c&#k holster.BusterBoy
- lol, whoops, i must have step on your flaps. So are you saying you care and have concerns too?omg
- so you have internet connections with the US. that's nice.omg
- Derp. Typical insular POS you are.BusterBoy
- omg is salivating over this reformzaq
- He's the fucking Turkey that votes for Thanksgiving.BusterBoy
- This is Trump's idea of universal health care. Fucking tool.BusterBoy
- There's a difference between universal healthcare and Obamacare. BusterBoy probably thinks he'll get this on his planet.omg
- Hopefully they don't cut the school services for disable children for Busterboy's sake.omg
- It includes cuts for the disabled too. But you laugh at that because like the assholes who came up with this, you have no morals or ethics.monospaced
- It "could" cut school services according to the rewrite of this article on the left. It's not a laughing matter. Busterboy's internet connections may not reachomg
- This is saddening and a fucking disgrace. I am not sure what's worse, the chumps that applaud this or the politicians that wrote it.formed
- They say its a better deal than the previous version. Being that it's 1 of 3 steps, it should be considered a good start.omg
- None of what you said is relevant or true.monospaced
- For the larger population especially the young and healthy, will finally receive affordable healthcare getting huge tax breaks.omg
- So when someone says this doesn't benefit the average American...?omg
- The average American isn't young and healthy. You're a fucking joke omg.monospaced
- So it's a good thing they finally have affordable health insurance.omg
- They don't and won't with this law. You may have missed the part about insurers being able to charge people many times more.yuekit
- are are referring to insurers charging older folks more by five times, originally capped at three times the younger folks.omg
- Older people, preexisting conditions, and if your state decades to opt out all bets are off.yuekit
- The tax subsidies to help pay insurance are also significantly less than under Obamacare.yuekit
- Also could reduce benefits under employer based plans as the last part talks about.yuekit
- I won't mention the huge cuts to care for the poor and disabled since I'm assuming you don't care about that at all.yuekit
- it seems that there is a baby creating responsibility action being placed on medicaid suggesting, don't have babies if you've got no money.omg
- Otherwise the poor and disabled are still covered by Medicaid.omg
- There are probably greater and safer benefits in diversifying the power structure giving each state the power to choose their own path in healthcare.omg
- You don't think a 25% cut to Medicaid means less people will be covered? lolyuekit
- "Many of the groups that rely on Medicaid, which covers about 75 million low-income people from babies to nursing home patients, are likely to see benefit cuts"yuekit
- I think the only way to solve the big issues in the high risk pool of health is to cure diseases and genetics may be the path forward.omg
- Sure keep babbling about genetic testing kits and tanning bed.yuekit
- Better hope you never fall on hard times, get a serious disease, or get old. I'm none of those things will happen lolyuekit
- *I'm sureyuekit
- I think a 25% cut will not mean less people will be covered, but more people will receive less coverage.omg
- But this is in addition that many young folks from 20-40 will be receiving back thousands of tax credits.omg
- Well you're wrong again. This provides smaller tax credits/subsidies than Obamacare.yuekit
- lol, did you just try and school me about hard times? I'm gonna die just like you, and I won't be able to take any of it with me.omg
- haha
"less people will be covered, but more people will receive less coverage."yuekit - Maybe you should tell Trump to use that in his campaign ad.yuekit
- You gotta try and figure out where that 25% reduction is coming from. There has to be a big chunk of expenses deemed unnecessary somewhere.omg
- curious why to mention of planned parenthood. we totally skipped over all that and landed on tanning beds and genetics. lolomg
- * correction... why no mention of planned parenthood.omg
- Well earlier you said poor people should have less kids...if that's your goal than defunding Planned Parenthood is an absolutely terrible idea.yuekit
- Since they are often the ones providing free conception etc. for lower income.yuekit
- The irony is that this bill will come down most harshly on low income whites...who voted for Trump.yuekit
- https://www.nytimes.…yuekit
- if this allows me to not be penalized for using shortterm healthcare that is superior to anything on the change at 80 bucks a month than awesomedeathboy
- way i saw i saw it short term+penalty was cheaper than obamacare exchanges. also allowed me to select between any service provider. smaller deductibles toodeathboy
- the biggest issue in healthcare is gov. if they stayed out of it including SS medicare markets could work and care would be affordable like fuckin coca coladeathboy
- as short term tells u they can offer such rates because they do not meet obamacare rules an regulations, the sad thing is i dont qualify for HSAs because i wontdeathboy
- fall for there bullshit. but fuck it. they can eat a tax deffered dick. i also maintain there ER mandated care if needed at cost of others, so fuck it.deathboy
- just gotta outplay the system. and the system is created by college retard fucks with little critical thinking skills so its kind if taking candy from a babydeathboy
- lol, from a guy that didn't go to college, and can't tell then from than ... what a jokemonospaced
- i went to college on scholarships and subsidized loans. had a couple of years of fun partying and racing and left before the debt trap.deathboy
- pretty clever. and i know the differences between than and then and i dont care which i use, but always funny the types of minds that latch on to things likedeathboy
- that. it almost seems like a bait to filter out certain types of people. that the action almost has a direct purpose... crazy huhdeathboy
- but you're wrong, college educated people are not "retard fucks." they actually have more critical thinking skills, PROVEN by finishing college (you didn't).monospaced
- only people I've ever heard attack college educated people are those that a) didn't go, or b) failed and are butt-hurt over itmonospaced
- and trust me ... all intelligent, educated people notice when you confuse then and than, because it looks like a mistake only a high school dropout would makemonospaced
- yea but what if english is not his forst language. chill dude . lolsince1979
- omg forst lolsince1979
- Disgusting.
- sarahfailin1
Remember when we used to have dozens of political threads??
Good times.
- R_Kercz2
"[O]ur great gentleman and my friend, from Australia ... you have better healthcare than we do," Trump added, turning toward Turnbull.
- BonSeff1
- talking about double standards, if the roles were reversed, and the Christians made fun of him, wouldn't they be called an anti-semite?omg
- dude's standup has always sucked... he's only funny w/odenkirk or when someone else is writing for him (ie: arrested development)PonyBoy
- David cross is hilarious.monospaced
- Always funnyRamanisky2
- Always fresh and relevant. Super intelligent too.monospaced
- Absolutely, I'm listening to his stand up now ... Hilarious. Bigly.Ramanisky2
- https://www.youtube.…PonyBoy
- HilariousRamanisky2
- IRNlun6-5
- "Please Grand Mama, tell me a story"IRNlun6
- "Yeah, don't grow up to be a piece of shit old white man wannabe-politician like Donald Trump."Bluejam
- "Once upon a time we voted for a populist right wing candidate...it didn't end well."yuekit
- lol, you have to admit that's not a very flattering photo.IRNlun6
- Maybe because it's fake?yuekit
- It's funny to see American Trump voters so invested in a race they know nothing about in a country most of them have probably never been to.yuekit
- +1 yuekitfadein11
- ah right, so you're french?IRNlun6
- Lived there for three years. I'm not saying that makes me an expert, but these Trump supporter running around promoting Le Pen don't have a single clue.yuekit
- "We're fighting the globalists" "France will be doomed if Macron elected"
It's painfully stupidyuekit - only as stupid as #MAGA though :)fadein11
- People are more passionate about populism vs globalization lately. It's not like there hasn't been similar themes running through global politics.IRNlun6
- Even President Obama has gotten involved in that election. The french from either party aren't shy of using the optics of US politics to gain support.IRNlun6
- too truemonospaced
