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- mg333
Do you guys often stop to remind yourself we are likely watching what will be the shortest presidency of all time unfold? Some days I tell myself there's no way he'll be thrown out, but the more that comes out, well, I get that tingling feeling that "yeah, this is probably really possible."
- although i am going to be thrilled if he does leave early, i am bracing myself for 4 full years of this weirdness and even potentially 8!capn_ron
- Didn't a guy die a couple days after giving his speech in the cold? He might have the shortest.sofakingback
- sted0
"BIBI AND I" aahahaha
- kona4
mg33, Trump supporters IMO couldn't care less about any of this and view it as nothing more than fake news and/or the Liberals trying to get in the way.
They don't care because none of this affects them. Dakota pipeline, aides in contact with Russia, lifting regulations, restrictions, and what not to wall street and big oil... they could give a fuck because none of it 'affects' them personally in any way.
The only things they care about are the wall, the muslim ban, and deporting immigrants.
Seriously,... this just popped into my Facebook feed a few minutes ago; "President Trump's New Executive Order will send 8 Million Immigrants Back - DO YOU SUPPORT THIS?" The comments range from vapid stupidity "...long over due! I for one applaud him for his willingness to take the heat and get the job done" and "Absolutely!!!! They, the women, will be so glad. Wow! Mr President You are the most working president we've ever had. We are sooooo glad you are OUR PRESIDENT. THANK YOU SOOOOO SOOOOOO SOOOOO MUCH." to vapid racism. I mean what the flying fuck?!?
I've only had 3 friends so far who voted for Trump and publicly now said they regret it. One is a gay woman who for some unknown reason voted Trump and is now disgusted with his anti-LGBT policy and talk (lofl to that). The other two are upset because of all the regulations he's lifting on big oil.
It's absolutely insane the blindfolds they continue to wear.
The same people who were livid over Hillary's emails and her 'lack of security' now could give two shits about Trump and his extreme lack of national security.
- Ironic, they only care about Muslims, Refugees and immigration as last time I checked, none of those are a big problem in rural America.kona
- that depends on who you ask :/monospaced
- They get fed a diet of red, white and blue from kindergarten. It's indoctrinated.monoboy
- Keep 'em ignorant, poor and scared and you've got faithful workers for as long as you want them.monoboy
- my trump supporter friends give zero fucks about all this ... they tell me he's done more in 4 weeks than Obama in 8 yrs. and He's also creating many jobs. LOLRamanisky2
- It's the same in the UK.monoboy
- Same here Ram. It's absurd.kona
- one buddy actually told me to knock off with the Trump jokes/memes .."IT'S GETTING OLD" .. are you fucking kidding me? I just keep assaulting him on the daily.Ramanisky2
- thanks in large part to QBN :)Ramanisky2
- haha! Same here again! I've had a couple to messaged me direct saying it's too much. I'm like, "do you not recall your posts from the past 8 years?"kona
- And yes, this site is a treasure trove of material to piss them off. If I'm bored, copy/paste to Facebook time, sit back, and watch things implodekona
- it's "unpresidented" konaRamanisky2
- lol. monoboy, great points. Especially the ignorant, poor, and scared.kona
- emails tho?sofakingback
- dbloc4
- Line cook pays the bill?monospaced
- ^ stereotyping much?chukkaphob
- mono's joke was funny and on pointkona
- yeah, I'm stereotyping :)monospaced
- You pay the bill first, then the line cook.ben_
- omg0
- Only 7,999,320 more immigrants to go! I feel safer already!kona
- 75% of arrested were dems and 25% reps? makes sense.oey
- 170 new lawsuits, no what's a law enforcement success rate!sted
- At this rate, it'll take 8 years to reach 8 millionomg
- *now that's (fcken autocorrect). i agree with you omg, and it's a great Purge. 8 years that will be end in the second term of biggy T. and with the built wall.sted
- it will bring permanent changested
- are you throwing a party?monospaced
- omg, there are now job openings ... just sayin'monospaced
- that would be closer to 70,000 than 8,000,000.detritus
- we know you really wanted those high paying jobs those immigrants stole from you and your peoplemonospaced
- detritus is so right. they're gonna have to beef things up by 10Xomg
- which by logical extension makes you so very wrong in the first place, omg... those diagrams with numbers and words on them don't seem to be helping...BuddhaHat
- @mono- There are plenty of Americans who are unemployed who didn't ask for welfare. Why don't you ask them?omg
- @BuddhaHat. so you're saying detritus is wrong?omg
- omg that's okay, but those native home grown murricans have the intention to work in the positions which are currently being filled by migrants?sted
- sted. opportunity nonetheless for mericans, green cards, student grads, etc.omg
- 680 people in 4 weeks, so 680 x 13 lots of 4 weeks in a year x 8 years = 70,720. detritus is correct with a margin of error of 1.02%. You're still wrong.BuddhaHat
- Actually it should be 680 in 1 week:
1 week=680
52 weeks=35360
8 years=282880
So you'd need 28X more beefin' to make an 8 million quota.omg - you'd miss the point if it stabbed you in the face, omg...BuddhaHat
- lol, omg, you think welfare is given without being asked-for? also, get a fucking real job, your trolling is total shitmonospaced
- poverty is not a choice, especially when you're outsourcing everything within.omg
- lol, you're such a moronmonospaced
- 'Poverty is not a choice'.
I'll remember that, next time I'm skint.detritus - omg - you really are a fucktard but opinions like that explain a lot.fadein11
- BuddhaHat2
It's funny 'cos it's treason
- I don't know whether to laugh or crykona
- omg, thoughts?severian
- The catch-22 between whistleblowing and classified information is going unmentioned here.omg
- "people before government", why didn't the whistleblowers submit their information to places like Wikileaks, instead of going to Washington Post?omg
- lol - because wikileaks cannot really be trusted nowadays :)fadein11
- BuddhaHat2
On Late Night with Seth Meyers, the host also brought up Flynn’s short time as national security adviser. “Twenty-four days!” he said. “I use disposable razors longer than that. He didn’t even last as long as a David Blaine stunt.”
- BuddhaHat2
Projection on a wall in Brooklyn
- oey2
I'm pretty sure he will quit by himself.
And then cry...on Twitter to play the victim.Seriously, Trump will not be impeached.
He will quit cause it's too much for him.
- monoboy2
<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We noticed that <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump">@realdonaldtrump</a>'s tweets are basically the lyrics to an early 2000s emo song, so we turned them into one. <a href="https://t.co/WjquEHrreo">pic.twitter.com/WjquEHrreo</a></p>— Super Deluxe (@superdeluxe) <a href="https://twitter.com/superdeluxe/status/830842872899334150">February 12, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
- Fucks sake. Link: https://twitter.com/…monoboy
- lolmoldero
- the original post was a fail, but the premise and song are great hahahahaBuddhaHat
- matrixsted
- detritus1
re: EU.
https://aeon.co/essays/how-did-e…
"In this regard, then, Europe’s intellectual community enjoyed the best of two worlds, both the advantages of an integrated transnational academic community and a com­petitive states system. This system produced many of the cultural components that led to the Great Enrichment: a belief in social and economic progress, a growing regard for scientific and intellectual innovation, and a commitment to a Baconian, ie a methodical and empirically grounded, research programme of knowledge in the service of economic growth."
- mg330
Which one of you is a good illustrator and can draw something like this:
an illustration of a scrap yard or landfill, filled with normal junk and scattered amongst it, dilapidated signage from Trump's buildings, poking in and out of other debris. A shiny beautiful day in the background, blue skies, sunshine.
Can someone draw that? I see it in my head and it's a beautiful image.
- Ramanisky23
U.S. Labor Secretary nominee Andrew Puzder is expected to withdraw his nomination amid mounting concerns that not enough Senate Republicans would vote to confirm him, NBC News reported on Wednesday, citing a senior administration official.
- kona2
Let's recap the last two days. The President has condemned:
MSNBC
CNN
Hillary
NY Times
Washington Post
FBI
NSA
ObamaHe has not condemned:
Russia
Flynn- <this plus fox news in the not condemned listoey
- You can't impeach him if he's Not your Presidentomg
- You're right oey. He in fact praised them for being great while condemning MSNBC and CNN. Sad.kona
- yeah, he literally tweeted that @foxandfriends is greatmonospaced
- @omg: no i can't. i know. i'm not even trying. he is. LOL!oey
- @omg, ummm ... the ONLY way to be impeached is if you're President.monospaced
- Ramanisky21
- i don't see a downside to a normalisation of relations with Russia. Long-term it's in all our benefit. Or am I missing something < here?detritus
- When the barn door is open and the horse has fucked off...what's left to normalize?see_thru
- it could be interpreted as a normalisation/tacit acceptance of authoritarian dictatorships and put a premature kibosh on democracy for one thing..BuddhaHat
- "...non-interference in each other's domestic affairs." They must mean in relation to running ones personal home and not election type country stuffkona
- after Russian actions in the Ukraine it could also be seen as acceptance of Russia's right to seek to re-take other land that was previously under its controlBuddhaHat
- and a whole bunch of people in Eastern Europe might have something to say about that...BuddhaHat
- ^ Bingokona
- I agree that better relations between 2 world powers would be a better outcome, but not with King Vlad on the throne. His vision is of dominance, not community.BuddhaHat
- and would, in all probability, run counter to many of the great points made in your article above on the 'Great Enrichment'BuddhaHat
- Sorry, I only see Russian actions in their local sphere as relevant in a local sense as is American exceptionalism in its own.
...detritus - Tsar Putin aside, Russia shouldn't be our enemy or nemesis. We fucked her over in the nineties, we need to make up for that.detritus
- american exceptionalism has its challenges, no doubt, but I still think a huge chasm exists between the present Russian political mentality and that of the USBuddhaHat
- A few too many people would have a hard time putting 'Tsar Putin aside' at this point in time, I think. It's a different flavour to the US' anti-democratic...BuddhaHat
- antics in other parts of the world (Latin America), and could be seen as more pronounced or sinister... I'm not saying it is, but it could be seen that way.BuddhaHat
- The US also does have things to answer for in terms of Russia's changes in the 90s, but wouldn't you say it had pre-existing underlying problems with itsBuddhaHat
- political structure and behaviour at that point anyway?BuddhaHat
- it could be, sure, but I think it's only us who see it like that. I don't want to be an apologist for them — I often think they'e assholes ...detritus
- ... but then so are we. Judged by ther absolutes of our own metrics, they're no worse than we are, clawing back what they can in the world.detritus
- I'd rather work with that kind of — possibly utterly mental — entity, than against it.detritus
- it's always good to have someone take a rational and opposing position in an argument to help expand one's views on these things, but to analogize...BuddhaHat
- I'd call it a frog and scorpion type situation at the moment, with an extremely high probability of getting stung.BuddhaHat
- I just don't see them as expansionist.
At all. Consolidating, absolutely — but expansionist? They know they can't afford it. As do we.detritus - Syria and Crimea are their two pathways to blue seas coverage. They are absolutely critical to Her Being. NATO expansionism threatens both. Why?detritus
- have to agree with detritusfadein11
- you're right fadein, detritus makes an extremely strong case, and as someone with less exposure to Eastern European politics I really appreciate hearing...BuddhaHat
- this point of view; call it media influence or what you will, but I still hold deep mistrust of the Russian leadership at the moment, and I don't feel like...BuddhaHat
- Russian culture generally speaking is in step with the rest of Europe at the moment, or farther afield.BuddhaHat
- and were they given the opportunity to re-join at diplomatic levels, I'm pessimistic towards their inclinations to adjust accordingly.BuddhaHat
- As an aside, this has to be hands down the best back and forth I've had in the Politics thread in as long as I can remember. Cheers detritus.BuddhaHat
- Oh, don't get me wrong — Russia as-is now is a fucking basket case. But the only path I can see as being logical is one of engagement; ...detritus
- ... One of empowering without meddling.
We meddle too much, far too much.detritus - 'clink BuddaHat :)detritus
- @buddha - same mistrust of Putin here but I don't think he is the aggressor he is made out to be and certainly not on a US scalefadein11
- @fadein, that probably goes back to my comment on media influence, in the majority of English-speaking sources he's painted as the evil one, no doubt.BuddhaHat
- Watching too many vids on liveleak re: Russian warfare & atrocities, street violence etc has probably had an effect on my position as well. They're pretty dark.BuddhaHat
- kona2
- Larry knows what's upkona
- Religion...Alternati... Factsoey
- Lard Jezzus he done know da tuufffruitsalad
- Jesus' miracle birth is an alternative fact. So was his entire catalog of supernatural powers and his resurrection from death and ascension to heaven.monospaced
- yuekit4
hahah the shitshow continues...
Trump's choice for Labor Secretary (the CEO of Carl Jrs) forced to withdraw after Oprah releases tape showing that he beat his wife
- un. fucking. believable.kona
- Goldsee_thru
- @ kona: do you mean un-fucking believable or fucking un-believable?oey
- this administration is surely the biggest joke in the history of US politicsfadein11
- He failed to fill out a financial and ethics form ... SERIOUSLY? He's the prick from Billy Madison movie who can't answer ethics questions. Fuckin' amonospaced
- @oey. I mean believable un-fucking.kona
- LOL!oey
- fruitsalad1
I watched the Oprah clip, the reason he withdrew is because that's not his ex wife... it's him in drag!!!
- BusterBoy3
MSNBC Morning Joe have confirmed they will no longer book Kellyanne Conway to appear on their show. Good move...at least until she starts to actually answer some questions.
