Abortion search banned
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- detritus
'One of the world's biggest medical databases has started censoring the word “abortion” after receiving funding from the right wing republican US government.'
- Jaline0
*opens can of worms
- If you open a can of worms, you do something that will cause a lot of problemsDrno
- and is, on balance, probably going to cause more trouble than it's worth.Drno
- from some obscure online dictionaryDrno
- On their show, Bullshit, Penn & Tellar rightly proposed, I think, that opening a can of bees is much worse than opening a can of worms.welded
- can of worms?5timuli
- No... Whoop Ass!
They were wrong.jellyneck
- welded0
Apparently this has since been reversed and an inquiry launched, that will, no doubt, be equally unbiased and fair.
- Oh. Balls. You could've said that before I wrote the following post!
Oh. You did.detritus - Do you have a link?detritus
- No, I'm going on the word of my librarian wife. :\welded
- Here you go, right from the horse's mouth: http://www.jhsph.edu…welded
- Oh. Balls. You could've said that before I wrote the following post!
- detritus0
The indecency of this situation should be an affront to all Americans, irrespective of religious-leaning. There is supposedly a separation between church and State. This negates that. America is the land of the free and of free speech. This negates that. America is supposedly a primary science and medicine leader. This negates that.
Regardless of anything, to utterly eradicate the fairly broad search term 'abortion' from a principal medical database will surely have an impact on those occasions where even the religious zealots would accept the need for an abortion.
In sum, evil.
- stoplying0
It's probably because of that wacko guy who is pregnant. We're all going to hell.
- see, first the gheys want to get married, and then look what happens!TheBlueOne
- Corvo0
They also said Greenland was green, but it isn't.
- PonyBoy0
once again... separation of Church & State does not mean a congressman/woman / senator / citizen cannot vote their religious conscience...
... what it means is Gov. does not control the church and the church does not control the gov... if the majority of voters are religious... TOO BAD! :)
Funny how people only whine about this topic when it doesn't angle in their favor.
You want to put an end to this debate? Wear a condom or close your legs... just because you screwed up and were part cause to a pregnancy doesn't mean you kill the baby.
B. Obama said something really fucking stupid the other day in reference to his daughter ever possibly being pregnant...
"blah blah blah... but she should be punished with a baby."
PUNISHED?! WTF? It's a CHILD... A HUMAN... it's a responsibility you now have... NOT A PUNISHMENT.
The fact that aborting humans is even a debate still screws with my head... It's a HUMAN BEING... libs and the left cry about human injustice the world over... especially for 'THEEE CHIILLDREEENNN'... waaaaaaaaaaaahhh!!!... yet you have no qualms with wiping out a life before it even got a chance to breathe on it's own because you 'screwed up'...
grow up.... or close your legs... losers (and don't start whining about the less than 2% incest/rape cases... that doesn't excuse the other 90% self-centered reasons for aborting life).
- hmmm... worms and bees all over the place!!!PonyBoy
- Jesus hates it when you call people losers.mrdobolina
- detritus0
An embryo is NOT a human - you utterly demean what it is to be a human by making that comparison.
Just how clever were you as a teenager? You always insisted on protection, be it chemical or prophylactic? You can't empathise with people who grew up those few weeks too late?
The few women I've met who've had abortions have grown up to become some of the most mature, worldly people I've ever known - it's by no means the easy get-out as so often painted by the religionists - it's a harrowing, humbling and demeaning experience which very quickly kicks the recipient up the ass.
Of course, abortion isn't offered as The solution - but it is A solution, within certain restrictions.
I get queasy when they talk of late-term abortions, where I begin to empathise with your position - if it's been left that late, then it should go to term. But where I use 'should' I mean it as merely my opinion - who on Earth am I to say what's right or wrong, or to impose my beliefs on the access of information? No one, and I should trust the pertinent knowledgable-authorities to make that decision on behalf of the person in question - it's got fuck all to do with me.
- agreed.Jaline
- you lost me in your first statement... if an embryo isn't a human... what it is? a glob of... bio-stuff?PonyBoy
- do you cry everytime a women menstruates?mrdobolina
- yes. :)PonyBoy
- SUE ME FOR WANTING LIFE TO COME FIRST...
losers!!! :DPonyBoy - but you are for the death penalty...mrdobolina
- I AM NOT!!!... dude... I've always been against it... we've even had this discussion, dobs. Life first... no matter what.PonyBoy
- at least you are consistent.mrdobolina
- i know it... i'm a pretty consistent hypocrite indeed. :)PonyBoy
- An embryo's as much a human as my thumb is.detritus
- detritus0
PB, your last two paragraphs paint an opinion completely not grounded in the real world. Where and when across the breadth of human existence has abstinence ever worked? Where and when has repressing our animal instinct ever bettered society?
The conservative classes are the exact-same as argue against state support for single mothers - so what would you do? Force many a young woman the 'choice' between getting someone sticking a twisted coat hanger deep inside them in some back-alley abortion house or living a life of impoverishment, as they struggle to support themselves and their child? Perhaps they could give the child away? How on Earth is this more valid in 'moral' terms?
Bluntly, I think anti-abortionists are either ignorant, chuavinist or simply have a deeply unbalanced moral centre.
- Drno0
"You want to put an end to this debate? Wear a condom or close your legs... just because you screwed up and were part cause to a pregnancy doesn't mean you kill the baby."
wow, we've reached a new high here
so I'll divert the subject
- welded0
So, how about that censorship, eh?
- mrdobolina0
Ponyboy: once again... separation of Church & State does not mean a congressman/woman / senator / citizen cannot vote their religious conscience...
... what it means is Gov. does not control the church and the church does not control the gov... if the majority of voters are religious... TOO BAD! :)
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Was there a vote on this and we missed it?
- utopian0
Only in America
- teleos0
A human zygote has every bit of the genetic information of a mature adult. It is fully human. No religion about that, just science.
- So does my thumb. In fact, so does each and every one of my pubes.
OMG SAVE THE PUBES!detritus - OH NO! I JUST SHAT SOME FAECES - OMG IT'S GOT MY DNA IN! SAVE MY SHIT!detritus
- FAECES HAVE SOULS TOO!detritus
- HERE'S A PUBE AT 22 WEEKS - HERE'S YOUR BRAIN ON DRUGS
*SMASHES EGG*detritus - u ok, Narin?harlequino
- *Nairn*harlequino
- I'm alright.
It's the rest of the world that isn't :)detritus
- So does my thumb. In fact, so does each and every one of my pubes.
- welded0
I asked my wife about it (former genetics major) and apparently by having her period she's killing what you describe as a fully mature human being. I'm off the hook because sperm don't have enough chromosomes.
*phew*
*jerks off*And as for PonyBoy, your rant has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Let's say that a girl "screwed up" and is looking for some information on abortion. What then? If it's a stop word, like "the" and "a", she won't find the right information. Is that ideal? Does that gel with your politics?
- acescence0
having an unwanted child and tossing it in a dumpster seems much more humane than early term abortion
- teleos0
welded your wife evidently needs to pull her textbooks back out. An unfertilized egg does != zygote. A zygote is the result of a sperm fertilizing an egg to produce the number of chromosomes which == human.
detritus, skin cells exist because humans who were once zygotes exist, instead of having been killed in the womb. :)
And keep in mind that by the time that almost all pregnant women discover they are pregnant and proceed with an abortion, their baby has a heartbeat, feels pain, etc...
- this post >= accurate
nairn <= a redheaded 12 year old girl
pb == :DPonyBoy - most organisms, including plants, have systemic response to external threats, or "feel pain" as you put it.acescence
- for something to be "killed in the womb" it would have to be alive, which is the point of contention hereacescence
- There are enough chromosomes in 2 eggs: X+X. You can't make a baby that way, but thanks for playing along.welded
- this post >= accurate
- Jaline0
Yes! Let's bring plants into the fold! They have feelings too...
- oh jaline..studderine
- that was sarcasm...
although plants are living organisms.Jaline
- whut0
i think we're missing the point... the ethical debate is valid.
what should trouble us all is the methodology employed here... the founders clearly intended america to be a market place of ideas.
the "pro-life" movement does not have the support to overturn roe vs. wade... so. they've moved behind the scenes to dishonestly limit access and information.
this search banning is a small, some what trivial example of this.
it should not be tolerated.
- detritus0
The subjugation of intellectual pursuit by intrinsically unreasonable religious beliefs is a despicable abuse of freedom, come what may.
- the most noteworthy intellectual pursuits throughout history had "religious" visionaries as their catalyst.teleos
- Especially in the scientific realm. Newton, Bacon, Mendel, Kepler, Kelvin...teleos
- It seems that religious sensibilities, if you will, drive some pretty cutting edge pursuits.teleos
- you're drunk on the materialist's cool aide, detritus.teleos
- tbh, I now have no clue what i was trying to say here - i was pretty goddarned stoned last night.detritus
- ribit0
..plus what if you were searching to find articles explaining "why we banned abortion"? The method was too heavy handed and anti-education.