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- usrper
how uses it?
how do you find it?
- harlequino0
I used to.
I found it in a store.
- brains0
I have in the past. It's one of more straight forward programs. Easier to learn than logic, not as simple as protools but all around quite easy in the long run.
- usrper0
ok leme rephrase:
who uses it?
how do you like it?
- usrper0
hows it different from ableton?
- harlequino0
Been about three years but I remember it being one of the better recording programs. Farily industry standard, so if you ever get a sound gig, most likely transferrable skills.
- brains0
Isn't ableton more geared towards a live use? Cubase is just a multitrack recording program with a midi interface, it could be used live, but I believe it's better for studio use.
- brains0
Any of those programs will always have transferrable skills. No doubt about it. If you learn one, picking up the others is quite easy. Except logic from what I remember. It's awesome, but backwards compared to anything else.
- morilla0
I used to, not anymore.
Logic all the way
- Ianbolton0
Lets just say Cubase records audio and midi using a standard sequencer styled system which is simple pretty straight forward. I haven't used it for a while and if you have a mac get Logic, or logic express which does the same thing and maybe works better.
Ableton is more for live music and possibly dance based material. not sure as I haven't used it properly.So, are you mac or pc? What sort of music do you intend to make? and if it's only for a mess about then why not use Reason?? For me that the easiest option and pretty innovative with the things it can do.
- Ianbolton0
My grammar is getting worse as the day draws to a close
- 23kon0
Usrper,
I used to use Cubase for years and years but switched to Ableton live a couple of years ago.
Cubase is a very 'fixed' studio piece of software, it is purely timeline based. If you wanted to perform your music live, the only thing yu can do is press play and sit back and watch it play along the timeline, you could of course tweak parameters or effects etc but you are stuck with the same song structure.
The beauty of Ableton Live is that you can use it in the same way as Cubase - working along the timeline to create your song, but then when it comes to live performance, you can split the song up into segments: ie. intro / verse / chorus / build-up / breaks etc etc.
You can trigger these parts as you wish (and deconstruct the parts on the fly as well as tweaking levels/effects etc).
This means that if your crowd starts going daft for a build up that you are playing, you can keep them going for longer by building up the buildup into somthing longer and even more epic.
Its a good way for being able to remix your own music too and come up with differnt structures.A nice touch on Ableton is "Warp" which will automatically fit samples or songs to loops. very handy for importing accapellas into songs youve made and they fit (pretty much perfectly) first time its pasted in there.
I was overseeing the recording of a soundtrack for a CDRom we were doing and I was talking to the guy who ran the recording studio about Cubase and Ableton. This guy used to do dance music and had some tunes in the charts and has ran a studio for years so he knows his stuff.
He said that Ableton was a really good tool but wasnt high enough quality for recording studio use. Now, you and me wouldnt notice this difference - even on the best sound systems, but for a complete audiophile with the highest spec of recording studio monitors, "he" could hear the difference.
Saying that, a lot of artists these days are using ableton to make music that makes its way to the charts - just check out the ableton website for a list of the people using it. Its very impressive and these artists obviously love it for its ability to be both a recording tool and a performance tool.
In the past artists would have had to create their music in cubase or whatever then transfer it to some other format to be able to play it back live. Ableton allows your laptop to be both your studio and everything you would ever need to take your music on the road.Ableton isnt just geared at dance music, you can do whatever you want with it.
If someone was asking me for advice, id reccomend Ableton to them anyday over Cubase.
- blaw0
We use it for one project I'm involved in and the results are very good and quickly in place. When I say "we", I don't mean me. I just stand around, smoke dope, and sing when they tell me to. The dude running the show works it like a magician, however.
- stupidresponse0
used cubase starting with an atari st, eventually moved to mac. switched a number of years ago to logic and haven't looked back. ableton is fun for coming up with ideas, but i find a lot of things i create with it end up sounding very similar. regardless of what you choose, if you're doing any live recording it's all about the a to d converters, and monitor thru a proper output, not the craptastic 1/8" mini plug.
- MikeColdFusion0
I use cubase for my own stuff, but my friend and I are using abelton to do a live drum and bass performance. its great for doing live drum break edits.
23kon speaks the truth, but I still prefer cubase.
- yea, how come?usrper
- intuition kinda thing?usrper
- It works better for my style and I've been using it for several years so I know it pretty well.MikeColdFusion
- usrper0
ableton's interface looks better too, imo
- 23kon0
ableton is a bit more userfriendly once you get your head around everything. ive never been so inspired by a piece of software as i was when i started using ableton, since i was in awe of flash and what it could do years ago.
- molo0
ableton is loop based and a bitch to edit with. i use cubase for video mixes and ableton for music and sound effects cuz it's like playing with a video game. still a different concept though. ableton is more like acid or reason, cubase is like protools and logic.
- i've done entire mixes in live for short animations but you'd kill yourself on a largish video mix projectmolo