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- spendogg0
We did much research on vaccines and their effects, cuz we have a little one. And the short of it is that the amount of shots they have to get by the time they are 2 is about 57 - that is super aggressive for a developing immune system, you are bound to run into problems pumping that much crap in your body (you dont even want to know what the vaccines are made of).
A big part of the problem is that a lot of family practices are funded by the pharm companies that make these vaccines and if the doctors dont make their quota they get no cash - so every time they come up with a super shot all the doctors jump on board.
Even in Japan the gov. recommends waiting until the kid is 3 before any shots are given. Our Government will not fund any research on the link between autism and vaccines, even though the gov. mandates them. It will fuck with the pharm/Gov relationship. I could go on for days, but i got work to do.
- Would you recommend a good resource on this?Mimio
- there are tons of books on this. But even Dr. Sears a famous family physician thinks the program is to aggressive.
http://www.askdrsear…spendogg - http://www.askdrsear…spendogg
- 57? Holy crap that's a lot. That's more than one every other week.
Crazy.flashbender - they are now jamming 6+ shots into one.spendogg
- Thanks. I keep hearing Dr Sears' name more and more. Especially in child development etc.Mimio
- do you have kids mimo?spendogg
- I have one coming in July/Aug.Mimio
- they will want to give your new baby a shot right after it is born, I think it is the HepB shot - make sure you know what is upspendogg
- i agree spen, they are a lot of needles. but they build on each other and are not all different ones.sputnik2
- thanks for the info Spen, I have a 2 week old daughter myself.moldero
- Mojo0
Over here in the UK, some people (including my mother) believe it's down to the MMR jab - my mum noticed my brother was different (at the time, not in hindsight) after he had that jab. Many other people think this too.
Imagine if they confirmed it, think of the lawsuits! Never going to happen.
- flavorful0
I wrote another long diatribe on my childhood but decided I would just delete and simply put this, haha:
My ADD has its own ADD which means before I even attempt to do something I'm bored with it.
- Jaline0
Mojo, I mentioned that people do have these things, for sure. I'm just on the fence about medicating children, although I realize that these syndromes / diseases are all different. But it seems like each one covers a different base, therefore encompassing every type of child out there and making it easier for everyone to dismiss issues as something that can be categorized. It's hard to explain, but....anyway...I do get that people have it. I guess it's been represented in an annoying / strange way in the media.
- I was diagnosed with ADD but my mom said "hog wash". And just invented games like "run around the block until you go to sleep."flavorful
- to sleep."flavorful
- That game sucks.flashbender
- You just weren't good at it because you were fat and lazy and weren't hyperactive. :Dflavorful
- Oh wait ... now I get it.
Yea that game did suck.flavorful
- 7point340
a lot of people are sure that plastic causes cancer. plastic is everywhere, and it is becoming cheaper and cheaper which means it breaks down easier. they tell you not to refill watter bottles because the plastic breaks down after 1 one use... everyone drinks bottled water nowadays. the spent years perfecting microwave safe plastic, now they tell you not to put it in the microwave because it the heat can cause it to release toxic gasses that may cause cancer...
i'm sure whatever is causing autism is something we use everyday... hell it might even be plastic as well... it doesnt seem to be going away anytime soon though
- slinky0
I volunteer a few days a month at my church with children with disabilities... most of them have some form and some level of autism. all these kids are really amazing, but i still go home each day very sad for them and their families.
we have about 30-40 kids each night.
Fragile-X disease is one of the worst i have seen... this family had 3 girls all with some level of FX.
- harlequino0
In a grand generalized manner, I agree with you, 7.34.
Although my mind tends to point the finger at food additives, preservatives, processed food products, animal & crop feed, hormone injections, pharma, etc. Between the so-called rise in maladies and birth abnormalidies, there is a connection somewhere in there.
The soft 'freakout' over the autism and innoculations is largely due to Jenny McCarthy and Oprah. Apprarently the two of them know something the medical research doesn't. Since the entire suburban population hangs on Oprah's every word, it spread like wildfire.
I read recently in several places that there is no proven link or even a relationship. But who knows.
When i have children, a tin foil cap firmly grafted to their head is the only innoculation necessary.
- driftlab0
It is all over the news because 10 years ago, 1 in about 10,000 children were affected by it. Today it is 1 in 150.
My son, Elijah, has Asperger's Syndrome, which is basically high functioning Autism.
- driftlab0
No one knows what is causing it. We made sure that my son was not given themerasol (mercury containing preservative) in any of his vaccines and he still ended up on the spectrum.
It is most likely a mutation of Chromosome 16. My guess is that it is caused by all of the crap in our foods these days + pesticides and who knows what else.
- Jaline0
It's genetic, correct?
- maybe yes, maybe no
http://www.exploring…flashbender - I mean Aspergers. But thanks for the link.Jaline
- Aspergers is on the spectrum of autism. They're related.Gucci
- Yes, I discovered that this year.Jaline
- maybe yes, maybe no
- driftlab0
Elijah's Aspergers is only a trait. It's not who he is, but part of who he is. But its a big part of what makes him beautiful. He is a brilliant and amazing boy. We wouldn't change him one bit. We only hope it doesn't cause him too much anxiety as he grows older and becomes more aware of his "gifts" and how it makes him different from neuro-typical people.
- Mojo0
@redmond, what?
..anyway, yeah my brother has aspergers. It amazed me how intelligent they are, but yet so childlike in ways. There are lots of them who get depressed. Never under estimate them. Ever. Because they are probably smarter than you!
- autistics used to be called idiot savants... people assume they are stupid but some of them are hyper intelligent7point34
- there's evidence that supports your theory. read the wired article from last month (mentioned above).Gucci
- just not very good at expressing themselves7point34
- I don't think it's the healthiest was of approaching the situation, but it's interesting for sure.Gucci
- Gucci0
Part of the problem is that they don't know what all of the shots can do to a child all at once. One solution I've heard is that they stagger the shots as opposed to giving them to babies all at once. They pump those little bodies full of some deadly viruses to immunize them, but can such a young and small person handle all of them? They don't really know - is the true answer.
I have a 3 year old neice (4 this week) who is severely autistic, but who gives me the greatest joy in the world. Her tiny little accomplishments are fucking amazing. She walked down the aisle as a flower girl with my older brother... we weren't sure if she would be able to do it, but with a little help, she did it.
I still cry to myself late at night worrying about her and her future.
I, for one, am glad it's getting the media's attention and I hope it doesn't go away. The more attention, the more funding, the more funding, the better the minds that are attracted to the cause, the greater the minds... well, you get it.1 in 150 kids is born with it. That is fucking insane.
- flashbender0
I'll post this just because it's crazy and yes, I know it has shown up on NT a few times alread.
Also, I'm solidly in the camp that a lot of it has to do with diet - there is so much additional crap in the america eats that it is certainly , if not the cause, a factor in the explosion of the number of the cases of some of these ailments/syndromes.
- mg330
Being a new parent or potential parent must be a complete and total minefield of fear and unknowing. I couldn't imagine it at all. I do want to have kids someday, but man, I'm a real worrier and the mix of happiness and unknowing would really collide with me.
- yeah, 2 week old daughter here. im freaking out about everything. toys, vaccines, food my wife eats while breast feedingmoldero
- 7point340
^ watched philadelphia one night really early in the morning soon after my son was born. still very small, he was maybe 1 - 2 months old. fell asleep on a pillow next to me, i kept watching philadelphia. the scene at the end when he's in the hospital made me lose my mind. watching his mom and dad and everyone else saying goodbye/goodnight to him. i looked at my son and just started crying. i know it was only a movie but people lose their children everyday. (its always gonna be you're baby even when they're 45)
no point really just sharing... you worry, thats how it works, but kids are still a beautiful thing
- mg330
7point34 - this could be an entirely different thread, but, I know what you mean. I lost my sister 11 years ago in a car wreck, and, some movies are hard to watch. I don't like stories about loss and sadness because I've been there - it's a reality to know exactly what that feels like. I've always been a very emotional person. Armageddon - a stupid movie to most people - is a movie that always gets me. That moment of Bruce Willis choosing suicide to make his daughter happy is really powerful, when they're talking for the last time. it's always hard to watch.
The only thing I fear about dying myself - if it happened at a young age - is that I hate knowing what people go through, family, friends, etc. but for people that I love, knowing that one day they won't be here, that we'll all have to say goodbye one day, if we're lucky enough for that moment, I dwell on that frequently. Obsessively, sometimes. There is nothing harder in life than knowing that someone is gone - gone completely, and there only in memory. It's a very consuming thought.
- of course it hurts... it will always hurt, though it will get less with time. memories are key, and try to make the most of your time7point34
- Indeed. :)mg33
- I'm a sucker for scenes like that, despite anything people may say about that film. I can't imagine how it feels from your perspective thoughJaline
- perspective though.Jaline
- Redmond0
I think that the very low expectations in school and work all around means poor discipline and a rise in fake mental disorders. You're not even expected to write work documents in proper french or english regardless of education. Etc.. Society keeps lowering the IQ bar so that's why more and more people vedge out.
Why would anyone work their brains for anything when they can just copy another person's paper or if it's cool to get low grades or hey, you can show up at work whenever you want, and do as you feel like etc...
Maybe my view on this is skewed having been parted by my hippie dad early in life and watching all my step sibblings grow up all messed up and doing jail because "you can do whatever you want" and "discipline is wrong" and "your grades don't matter".
- Gucci0
wow redmond. that's one of the more blanket ignorant statements I've read on this site in some time.
The title of the thread is 'autism' not 'people with no motivation'
Nothing you referred to is directly related to a serious medical condition. Your view isn't skewed, it's just way off base - as in has nothing to do with what anyone here is talking about.