Immortality
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- ribit0
Why keep them? Because they want to live... its their choice (or aim) to do this.. not yours? If they were just stored sure they arent much use (except for occasional research where you wake them up), but the idea is they live on (with a body).
The thing about talent... it is just a product of the brain, genetics, experiences, memories (i.e. from experience to learning, to your own developed philosophies etc).. its all recorded in there... its in there somewhere... so a perfect copy of you has all of YOU in it.... doesn't it?
- Witt0
data is useless if there's not a way of interpretating it - and interpretation (reading emotionally) is something no machine will ever be able to reproduce. So if you copy a person you're just copying the data, not the emotions that make him or her unique.
Blade Runner was about this.
- TR-8080
Bladderunner posed that question Witt, and from the behaviour of the replicants it was clear that it was possible, which contradicts your assertion. The quote that ian posted before illustrated the same emotional response to death as Atkinson re: lost memories.
The real question is living in this reality as a human or living in a simulated reality as a simulated human. In that sense the possiblity of immortality exists, but not to remain in this world by means of copying/transfering someones brain/memories.
just my 2 cents.
- Witt0
well it was a movie TR, not reality.
The thing is if a person took snapshot every second, or even made a continuous movie of his life and another person would watch it 100 years later would it make any sense?
- neue75_bold0
the universe evolves along one scale or Prigoginic level until it reaches its "event horizon" within that level. Then the system moves toward a catastrophe or statistical bifurcation familiar to chaoticians, often accreted around a single node or "catalyst" (which readers of the Gleick brand of chaos will recognize as a "strange attractor"). At crisis, the system prepares itself to take "the Prigoginic leap" into a new order of being, one discontinuous—and in some senses incommunicado—with the previous one. Every level of complexity floats freely from the last...
So though the four levels of Prigoginic Complexity are after all not so strange as a picture of evolution, the process by which they arise is decidedly "chaotic."
The raw, unstable, elemental, chaotic stuff that preceded space-time is the first level of Prioginic Complexity.
Out of a crisis in this pre-universe came space and time as we know them, as well as things, accretions of matter and energy, the planets, galaxies, elements, etc.: "Space-time, the Second Level of Complexity, expressed its noumenon in the whine of stars, the rumble of planets, the transcendent crackle and gush of the uncoiling sun"
Under certain conditions of far-from-equilibrium, wildly fluctuating elemental systems bring forth arrangements of matter, energy, and information that regenerate spontaneously, reproduce, transmit information from one generation to the next, process: elementary fungi, lichens...life, the Third Level.
The Third Level shudders to give birth to intelligent beings, the Fourth Level.
The Fourth Level yearns to force-evolve itself into the crisis that will bring on its ascendency to the Fifth Level, the Posthuman. Sterling's hero in "Cicada Queen" can trace the shape of the posthuman in the hyper-evolved nature of the "Lobsters," humans who have almost completely gone over to the other side and shucked their humanity like a caul, combining some Shaper technologies with those of the Mechanists to encase themselves in complete cyberneticized shells after undergoing biological transformations...
- Witt0
neue75_bold is teh new lovecraft :)
- Witt0
and that's why he's bold and not just neue.
- Witt0
so in a way, Rand is a Lobster?
- neue75_bold0
he's a Gasbag...
- neue75_bold0
by Sterlings standards, that is..
- Witt0
well yes... i guess anything's better than taking the wrong turn at the Bifurcation.