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- woodyBatts0
I felt it was on par with a made for tv movie
-very bad dialects
-cliche scenes ( e.g. people hugging each other, etc. )but Michael Pena was absolutely terrific, and personally I think it's great to see more ethnically diverse characters in central roles for movies.
I had heard flight 93 was brilliant, but came out too soon. I got it on netflix for the week of sept 11. I couldn't watch it. All week they had things on the tv shows about 9/11 and every night walking home i saw those lights. I just couldn't bring myself to watch it.
- Jaline0
I have no interest in seeing any film about 9/11 either, but it's not because it's too soon. I mean, it may be too soon but I wasn't affected by it personally nor do I live in the USA (it may seem like Canada is really close, and it is in proximity, but there are many differences in how things are represented here and many people don't realize that).
Basically, I have some issues with making films about these types of things without people knowing all of the facts first. Maybe we'll never know. Overall, I think I'm just not interested in seeing a film about 9/11, specifically.
- garett_west0
I'm sorry pavlov. I guess I have to dumb things down so your middle school remedial reading session brain can comprehend what I'm trying to say.
Here you go. My point... for dummies.
What Oliver said in the interview:
"From September 12 on, the incident (the attacks) was politicized and it has polarized the entire world," said Stone. "It is a shame because it is a waste of energy to see that the entire world five years later is still convulsed in the grip of 9/11.What Oliver did:
Made a movie about 9/11.Can you wrap your dumbass around it now douchebag or do I have to dumb this down further and explian it how a parent would explain sex to a four year old?
- pavlovs_dog0
i have read a fwe reviews off the film... no intrest in seeing any 9-11 movie though.
too soon.
he did try too connect america though... no conspiracy. no political overtones. ...just a story of a couple cops trying to survive.
it's major flaw (from what i've read) is that it's, well, boring.
- Crouwel0
lol at the idea me typing that for a life losing troll...
get the dick off your breath, we'll talk...
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pavlovs_dog
(Sep 29 06, 10:54)haha!
+1
- Crouwel0
i don't see a connection between ollies comments and his film. i did not think his film was very politically engaged, right?
it was just depicting the tragedy.
there's a difference.
i think he pointed out the issue is still absorbing the ones in power..in a different way.
- uberdesigner_0
a chick I lived with said her male waiter friend got hit on by oliver stone while he was delivering room service. even though she was probably full of shit, it was a good story
- garett_west0
pavlovs_dog.
I'm sorry I couldn't read through your post, I was laughing to hard. haha.
Thta was supposed to be funny right? HAHAHHA! Good one man!
- pavlovs_dog0
Oliver Stone...
'I'm ashamed for my country.'My favorite line.
"From September 12 on, the incident (the attacks) was politicized and it has polarized the entire world," said Stone. "It is a shame because it is a waste of energy to see that the entire world five years later is still convulsed in the grip of 9/11."
Is that why you just did a film about 9/11 Ollie?
garett_west
Um, you know this was the most apolitical film Mr.Stone has ever done?
You know he was born in NYC?
What EVIDENCE do you have that Olivers got no love for the capital of the world?
Such a telling insight into the degeneration of conservative thought...
Go Rove it! Personally attack the messenger! Cause FACTS confuse people.
And if you are challanged with EVIDENCE? Just brush off your challanger as a TERRORIST sympathizer...
Anyone who questions Bush II is ENDANGERING THE LIVES OF INNOCENT AMERICANS...
(Please ingore the fact we've failed spectacularly in the basic task of sealing our border)
EMOTION and FEAR are your keys to power... No need for logical, factually supported arguments...
You are the DECIDER!
And just f.y.i...
If you ever want to learn for a true conservative... You know, instead of being an apologist for dim-witted douchebags, try this...
- digitalswarm0
Born on the Fourth of July and JFK are really good too. Really well shot.
- Mimio0
Yep, that's the one time he didn't circle the prey for 2 1/2 hours and come out empty handed.
- spendogg0
But you gotta give him props for introducing us to Micky and Mallory.
- woodyBatts0
I didn't care for World Trade Center, but I did see it.
To my recollection even the president has said there is no connection between 9/11 and Iraq, so Oliver Stone just expressed his opinion on The iraq war, not on 9/11.
That being said, he maybe a bit of a nutcase, but he did fight for this country.
- Jaline0
Oliver Stone, I think, is probably more interested in story telling and political statements than the amount of money he makes off of a movie.
digitalswarm
(Sep 29 06, 09:17)he's obviously into the news-making stuff...
- digitalswarm0
Oliver Stone, I think, is probably more interested in story telling and political statements than the amount of money he makes off of a movie.
- mrdobolina0
true.
But, Im tired of everyone acting as if this tragedy is worse than other things that happen in the world.
- garett_west0
"just trying to make you think a little."
And what, do tell,do you think I was trying to do?
And yes Oliver Stone is a dick and a hypocrite who is laughing his way to the bank.
You can't talk about the publics fascination about a date and make a fucking tragedy movie about it, cause guess what, that means you have a certain fascination about it too jackleg.
- mrdobolina0
just trying to make you think a little.
not sure the name about the school siege movie.
oliver stone is a dick, butwhat he said in that article isnt entirely false.
- garett_west0
were you this distraught over the movie blackhawk down?
mrdobolina
(Sep 29 06, 08:50)You missed the point entirely.
(That was actually a good movie btw)
how about the film about the siege in russia by the chechen rebels? or is it just american tragedy that bothers you?
mrdobolina
(Sep 29 06, 08:53)You're missing the point again.
Also, what was the name of this movie? Never heard there was one that existed.