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- Stoph
Thinking about doing a MA in Interaction Design at Bath Uni (UK)
Anybody done a MA or even the course at Bath?
Any thoughts on the subject???
Cheers
- Nairn0
Learn by doing.
Do by working.
- Concrete0
Anti establisment is the way forward.
Have a shower its quicker.
- kon230
My opinion is the same as Nairns
the best way to learn interaction and usability is by DOING in the real world and not college projects.
you'll already have your degree to help you get a job.
and you'll learn MORE in a year in a job than you will in 3 years at college/uni.
- wristtattoo0
i graduated with an MA in Design this january i took part-time over 2 years. nearly died from too many pressures ie: endless commuting, full time job, mortgage & family to feed but i'm proud i did it.
could have tacked on another year for a doctorate but threw the towel in at a jedi master of design level.
f'ing show off.
- Stoph0
Good points...
I left uni about 6 years ago, I was thinking that it might be a way of freshening up, looking at design from a different perspective, things have got pretty stale on the new media side of things (for me), feel like I am getting left behind, partly due to my skillset with Flash etc, and partly due to where I am based, nobody wants to pay for good design, they just want a web presence and they only want to pay £99.99 for it!
- Nairn0
and.. what has all that actually achieved, wristtattoo?
just curious, as the majority of people who I've had respect for in design (etc) over the years have been largely self-developed from experience in a productive background.
- skt0
But what if "do by working" involves every project getting fucked in the ass by clients that just refuse to listen to good advice?
If I could afford to I would go back to uni and do a proper course in graphic design as I'm learning diddly in the comercial environment that I'm in now.
- kelpie0
me too
- kelpie0
(see 'chat in newstoday' thread)
- chossy0
I am 50 / 50 you need to have a good backround from uni then also get some experience of how it is really done.
Unfortunatly you have to compromise frequently in the work world as money rules everything and so does time.
- Nairn0
"But what if "do by working" involves every project getting fucked in the ass by clients that just refuse to listen to good advice?"
Very true, skt.
I just think Uni etc gives a good basis in the fundamentals of design, but that it lacks in teaching the 'bleeding edge' of what is available latest software etc... surely that can only be 'taught' by exposure and market requirement?
Otherwise, I kind of still believe in the talent and skillz that can be developed by the hungry bedroom developer / designer.
- it's a personal thing, I'm just not a big fan of people spending years and years in academia..
..ho-hum. back to swapping gabbly names.
- Crouwel0
i was in Bath yesterday.
- innkue0
i graduated from an MA in interaction/digital art in 2003. best thing i've ever done, on a personal level.
totally useless for what i'm doing now of course but still glad i did it.
- kezza_20
I did an MA in GD at St Martins, and It's made a difference in the jobs I get.
All up to the individual though.
- wristtattoo0
and.. what has all that actually achieved, wristtattoo?
Nairn
(May 10 06, 05:38)why:
left uni > 5 years pass i'm a senior designer with a stack of awards under my belt > became delirious with success > career then started to feel like a JOB > wanted to study and write papers within the many disciplines of design to light my spark i felt i was losing.
what:
forcing my self to sit and research methods, the business and industry aspects and contextualising the creative practice, intellectual and creative abilities to light back that spark i thought i was losing with a company who's work was humdrum - yet paying very well and making me feel too comfortable.
looking back i was applying my MA knowledge anyway as you suggested you and many others do in industry today. i had to physically revisit and see as self assurance.
- vespa0
if i had the money i'd love to.
just for the joy of having time to purely learn and think without everything being so practical slash commercial. i've always valued skills over chat, learnt everything on the job and i've done pretty well i guess, but i want to stretch my brain a bit.
i'd love to study for a year or two in new york, that would be sooo much fun.
- Jaline0
I would suggest a degree, which you already have, and then it's really your decision if you want to continue with further studies. It isn't necessary, so it all comes down to what you want to do.
Personally, after I finish my BA I will probably be getting an MA unless I go somewhere else with my life. (I don't study design, btw).
- Jaline0
If I didn't go to school I'd probably be the laziest person ever (at least right now in my life). I need that discipline just so I know I'm doing something useful.
I'm so introverted that the real-life interaction that comes with going to uni every few days adds to my social life, which keeps me from dying from all the studying and writing I have to do.
Plus, I like just knowing that I have a BA or MA. Even if it's just an illusion that you can get a better job (which may be true, actually), it helps boost your confidence.
- Crouwel0
not kidding. there's a tiny tiny village here called Bath.
- kelpie0
I'll need a google earth reference point before I believe you, crouwel. this is the 21st century you know.