designer programming
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- jackfoley
My boss at my job just told me he wants me to learn .net programming. I know it's good for designers to be familiar with programming and vice versa but he wants me to be able to create entire sites in .net. I'd say I'm a pretty typical designer/creative person. I took my required visual basic programming class in college and passed w/ a D. I know HTML, CSS and some basic actionscripting but those seem to be pretty designer friendly things to learn and aren't really true programming languages. Aren't designers and programmers in general complete opposites (right brain vs. left brain)? I've seen some designs that programmers have come up with and they are pretty terrible. I'm sure programmers would say the same thing about my code even if I learned the language. As a typical right brained person I'm not a very analytical or good with numbers. Would I be out of line to tell him I don't think it's the best thing for his business or for me? Or is this a common practice to have designers become fluid in programming?
- nRIK0
well i think you have a very narrow-minded view and stereotype both designers and programmers.
- uberdesigner0
tell him sure no problem. you are lucky to have a job you worm
- Mimio0
It wouldn't hurt to take your .net knowledge to the point sof being fluent in templating and database interfacing etc. I think asking a designer to start developing applications is a little bit asinine.
- nRIK0
i think your question is actually more to do with whether you would like to be a jack of all trades or master of one.
- hiten0
i wish i was a better php and as scripter if my boss was funding my learning i would take advantage of it forsure. I'm learning them now but its been a slow process.
- jackfoley0
nRIK - I'm already capable of creating work for the web, video and 3d so I have skills in several different design areas.
- Juliet0
Tell him to fuck off and hire if he wants to expand the range of services offered.
- Juliet0
I'd almost take the request as an insult, because he'll be impeding your career by forcing you to sidetrack with code bullshit. You're a designer, so be the best designer you can be, not one weighed down by writing code all day.
In short, you will hate your life if you become a developer/designer.
- jackfoley0
And just to clarify nRIK I know quite a few designers and programmers. I know they dont want to see my code any more than I want to see their designs. I'm not saying there aren't people who do both, I'm sure the ones who can make the most money. When you think of right brained and left brained people designers and programmers meet those profiles perfectly. And I understand there is some cross over - designers doing some HTML, programmers exporting some graphics whatever. It just seems crazy that my boss wants a designer to learn .net and be only .net programmer at his business.
- nRIK0
wants a designer to learn .net and be only .net programmer at his business.
jackfoleyokay, i see now and I agree with you. your background is in design, and if my boss told me that I would not be designing again, I would feel the same way - its bullshit and it looks like he is just looking for a cheap developer rather than going out to find a professional.
sorry for not getting your first post - it just came off as tho you were a designer who did not want to do both code + design [Re: designer programming], and that you believed people can only either be a developer OR designer and not both.
- nRIK0
[oh and by jack of all trades i meant it in an interdisciplinary way - across the two professions/whole brained]
- studderine0
just do it. douche.
- g3kk0k1d0
.net devs are costing alot right now - its cheaper for him to train you, if he is going to fund your learning i would seriously think about it -
what level is he expecting you to know/learn? writing apps or just interfacing with a db etc?
would be funny/kewl if you got skilled up and left them hehe
- who0
every knowledge is useful...
ask him to pay the training, and of course not only the book...
- Juliet0
This is like being an artist and your boss telling you "Hey, we can save money if we make our own paint, I'm sending you to a seminar and expecting you to make all paint from now on. And brushes. And paper."
- goygoygoy0
I don't believe in the radical comparison you make between right/left brain. I think you may have a certain attraction for thing more concretes, rationals or in the contrary a certain attraction to things more abstract and visual. But what I'm sure of is that as a designer, programing is moreover a question of work, patience and dedication.
- Juliet0
It's a question of fucking up your career by spending time learning something that will do fuckall to truly advance you! You could be a designer with an MCSD, A+ cert, and pass the Cicsco test, but it means FUCK ALL for your career as a designer!
- g3kk0k1d0
im getting the vibe that coders arent as creative as designers?
lol
- Terminal270
Ask him to pay you twice the salary!!
A little knowledge doesn't hurt but stuff that serious should be left to the proffesionals.
I am a designer and have seen other designers trying to programme stuff.
It's a very sorry sight.Tell him to fuck off