Outsourcing Design Services
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- jonnyquest
Recently learned via office scuttlebutt that our parent company is on some sort of 5 year plan to outsource a great deal of premedia work to India... What I thought was maybe 10 to 15 years away is a lot closer than I thought.
below are the players...
the people that help facilitate the process:
http://www.officetiger.com/whatw…the people who want it done
http://www.rrdonnelly.com/
- designerror0
you can't outsource creativity the same way you can with programming etc.
- jevad0
hahaha - dopepope used that image of the 3 people in teh first link for a couple of PS battles
- jonnyquest0
Tell that to the accountants at the nation's largest printer. It may not impact top agencies for awhile but production artists will probably feel it first because they are looking to specifically outsource that type of work. It will eventually get to the point were it will effect salaries across the board. The scenario I see playing out is that agencies will come up with the overall design concept but the production and implementation of that vision will be outsourced.
- designerror0
evad, I think it was Ramansky2 who used it
he had some nice reflection of some old women in the table too..
Good eye
I'll see if I can dig it up...
- jevad0
think you're right there punk
- designerror0
"The scenario I see playing out is that agencies will come up with the overall design concept but the production and implementation of that vision will be outsourced."
Great! Just my kind of work. I'll come up with the good ideas, and let some underpaid 15 year indian do all the bored shit work.
oh wait.. Thats what I do now! except for the indian part
- jonnyquest0
"Great! Just my kind of work. I'll come up with the good ideas, and let some underpaid 15 year indian do all the bored shit work."
I guess it depends on what one defines as bored shit work.
I was always taught you take pride in your craft.
Otherwise your just an art director.
- fate_0
You'd be surprised at the cultural translation mishaps that occur. Just take Japan for example.
You'd basically have to create a bunch of designer robots to create boring designs in a very stereotypical manner, or you train foreigners to understand and design for the Western markets...and at that point they don't need your shitty outsourcing job, they can work for your competition for a fair wage.
- studderine0
whoa, this thread is heavy, man.
- jonnyquest0
"You'd basically have to create a bunch of designer robots to create boring designs in a very stereotypical manner, or you train foreigners to understand and design for the Western markets...and at that point they don't need your shitty outsourcing job, they can work for your competition for a fair wage."
Vali points but the problem is the outsourcing has already started and the companies involved don't care... The concept and workflows are developed in america then once refined the infrastructure and asset management tools are implemented both in America and India... You have both groups working in tandem. The American site is often correcting what's pulled out of the Indian outfolders but that's not a major issue because what is generated from India doesn't have to be great just good enough. So say you had a full time staff of 20 production artists pullling in between $55,000 to $65,000 DOE a year plus benefits you could trim that down to 5 full time american workers and have the remainder of your workload outsourced where you pay the indian production artist $3,000 to $5,000 a year with no benefits.
Suprisingly enough it works and it sounds an awful lot like your designer robot scenario.
- uberdesigner0
Recently learned via office scuttlebutt that our parent company is on some sort of 5 year plan to outsource a great deal of premedia work to India... What I thought was maybe 10 to 15 years away is a lot closer than I thought.
below are the players...
the people that help facilitate the process:
www.officetiger.com/wh...the people who want it done
www.rrdonnelly.com
jonnyquest
(Jan 17 06, 18:54)you should keep your mouth shut and just be happy you have a job
- jonnyquest0
Everything I work on is agency driven with overnite or 48 hour turn around but If I get a call from India requesting fonts... Then I'll break out into a cold sweat...
Publication or catalog design that's all getting earmarked for outsourcing...
- Hundred0
You go to any of the online job boards like sologig, ifreelance, etc and they are all flooded with asian firms quoting $10 an hour with 100 employees versus solo western dudes askin for $50 an hour.
by 2010 everything will be rice farming. unless you're samurai or geisha.
- rasko40
Hopefully India becomes the hub for creative design in general, that way corporate identities will look like cheap matchboxes and websites will all look like Bollywood film sets. Awesome.
- designerror0
Hopefully India becomes the hub for creative design in general, that way corporate identities will look like cheap matchboxes and websites will all look like Bollywood film sets. Awesome.
rasko4
(Jan 18 06, 01:43hahaha AMEN
- jonnyquest0
"We are delighted to announce that Devonshire has merged with OfficeTiger BV. We will continue to be known as Devonshire providing recruitment, training, consulting and outsourcing services in the document and content management, presentation graphics and design sectors."
I should just buy some stock in these outsourcing companies but then again I am the same idiot that sold his apple stock before they released itunes for windows. Now Apple is worth more than dell let's see i bought $2000 worth of stock when they were at $15 a share... they are now at $84.71 a share....
sonuvabitch
- lowimpakt0
you live by the sword you die by the sword.
at least web design and graphic design aren't a cornerstone of the economy like manufacturing.
harsh but true.
- rasko40
well they are a cornerstone of my economy you mug.
not that I feel threatened at all, I just like calling people 'mug'
- lowimpakt0
heh. I was being flippant.
actually see the Cox review thread that i just posted.
- spot130
About two months ago, the firm I'm working for hired a vp who was a specialist in call centre outsourcing to India with the plan to start outsourcing web work.
I was a little concerned at first until we started interviewing candidates over there. I can say quite honestly that, as far as design and web technologies go, they are 5+ years behind us.
Also, clients do not want to find out that there work is being done in India, so you'll always need designers in house.
And finally, these guys work cheep, they work six days a week and they work while I sleep so if you can get working with someone from India, you'll triple your income potential.