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- MrDinky0
Is it really posible to say for a 'fact' that anything having to do with aesthetics or concepts is right, or wrong? Of course not because its impossible to quantify such things as absolute.
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in some sense it is true. but you can provide relative comments than personal opinion of "that you just dont like it and its not graphic design".
you can break down a design. the rational as a designer makes survive. when a client asks you why you put the image in the way that you have put it, you have to justify what you have done. as how i see, as a designer, you will be defending your work till the end.
if you feel that there is no need for justification nor factual evidence to back up your work, than you should be doing more fine arts.
i have been a jr designer unable to defend my work excepting saying "it just works" but thats not good enough. for many of us, it comes naturally to see things in a balance or off set to create harmony that is visually pleasing (me not one of them). just by saying " i think it looks good" is not a valid arguement to justify your thinking and metholds behind it.
- MrDinky0
excuse my crappy english, i am foreign
- fresnobob0
that was a piece i did as a proposal as a way to make people reflect more than think. the concept of it was to make the viewer realize how dire the situation is. the treatment was to convey this in the most simple way possible.
mattyd
(Dec 1 05, 22:24)That piece is way better than any of the ones you currently have on your new version or whatever. Something like that which has more of a concept to it will as MrDinky pointed out, last much longer and show a potential employer that even whensociety's aesthetic prefernce changes you could stiil be a useful asset
- mattyd0
i agree completely with you dinky. my take on 'design' and using the 'design/illustration' tag on my site is that each peice is used to convey a certain emotion or a certain stance on a matter and thus it can be considered 'design'.
- mattyd0
i also hear what you are sayig fresnobob with the One Campaign piece. i left it off the site for now because i am still working on some of it that i am not completely pleased with it (the way some dots cut off around the letters--though the more i try and fix it the more it seems like an impossibility).
- Soler0
you're trying to get illustration work then?
I didn't read earlier posts.
But I'd say if you want to expand your employment options, ad the pages from your projects that have more typography, page layout, and large columns of text.
work is real nice.
- fresnobob0
" i think it looks good" is not a valid arguement to justify your thinking and metholds behind it.
MrDinky
(Dec 1 05, 22:32)If we read minds it would be. Seriously though an 'instinct' can be a very powerful thing and even though a comment may seem unjustified at first, further exploration of the initial 'instinct' often reveals the justification behind it.
- Soler0
further exploration of the initial 'instinct' often reveals the justification behind it.
fresnobob
(Dec 1 05, 22:41)yes. but sometimes hard to convince people who don't care about that. the constant struggle. argh.
- inhaler0
nhaler,
i hear you on the dropdown. i jsut felt it was a quick and efficient way for people to get to the work. i wanted the least amount of clutter on the site that i could achieve. just felt the dropdown was the most effective/minimal way of doing it.
mattyd
(Dec 1 05, 21:59)I hear ya... Im having the same battles with my site. It may end up being a dropdown or something of the sort too...,. Simple HTML just to get work out there. Im a photographer, not a designer... So Im not gonna be all WOW about it.
LOOKS good tho.. good luck.
- mattyd0
best of luck with your site too, inhaler. im a firm believer in simplistic sites. especially photographers. better to have the work stand out over the site. that is, after all, the reason people are going to it.
- Soler0
50! and I'm out
- MrDinky0
If we read minds it would be. Seriously though an 'instinct' can be a very powerful thing and even though a comment may seem unjustified at first, further exploration of the initial 'instinct' often reveals the justification behind it.
fresnobob
(Dec 1 05, 22:41)yes we cant read minds so thats just you need to justify it. you gotta convince what you have done.
once you go in to the design work force, you will feel the reality of selling instinct.
- fresnobob0
yes. but sometimes hard to convince people who don't care about that. the constant struggle. argh.
Soler
(Dec 1 05, 22:43)I totally agree and thats where practicing comes in.
- MrDinky0
one of the most successful designers out there are best salesmen.
rather than listening to client and making the logo bigger, a great designer is able convince the client that small logo is good.
thats when you see great work.
- inhaler0
this is someone I went to school with... Again he's a photographer first but its simple and it works.
Cheers mate.
- fresnobob0
once you go in to the design work force, you will feel the reality of selling instinct.
MrDinky
(Dec 1 05, 22:48)Haha, yeah, unfortanatley I know thats true.
- mattyd0
thats a great site.
- MrDinky0
Haha, yeah, unfortanatley I know thats true.
fresnobob
(Dec 1 05, 22:52)indeed, if you start disecting work by others, you will be more profession at supporting your instinct. hence, selling your instinct via justification
- mattyd0
well put dinky.
- MrDinky0
an interesting conversation for a change.
see, i do have my good side other than confused gaylord