rich black
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- orangeglue
63C 52M 51Y 100K
30C 30M 30Y 100K
40C 100K
60C 40M 40Y 100K
65C 50M 35Y 100K
70C 65M 65Y 100K
40C 30M 20Y 100KSo many diffrent combinations for rich black. How does one get rich black? Does it depend on the program? Does it depend on the printer? ...probably does...
What are your CMYK combinations for rich black?
- randoman0
Why not just spot black, or 100%k? Im not sure what your trying to accomplish.
- orangeglue0
Well depending on the printer if you put 100k next to one of the combinations above you get a diffrent black when you print. 100k is more i guess greyish... and too much of the combinations can gets muddy.
- thislandslid0
well registration is a huge issue for me at work, especially at magazines... the printing is so fast and it comes in such massive runs that the registration will inevitably be off resulting in some annoying things going on if you use rich blacks.... when i use it i tend to stick to 100 k + 30 or so magenta or cyan depending on what im doing. it beefs it up and then that way you dont have to deal with all 4 colors lining up or having it create a unintenional blurry effect if the colors print slightly off.
- nicko0
Best results come from 100k with a 'shiner', I favour 100k 40c. Less risk of mis registration with 2 colours (esp if you have r/o text etc)
- orangeglue0
justin and nicko... you both have good points. having 100k and 30+ of C or M depending on the project and less risk of reg. good stuff
- agentfour0
depends on stock, printer and the rest of the document. I did a flyer last week using 100%k and the printer rang me to tell me that because theirp machines are set to 'overprint' and i had objects behing the black, i should use 60-40-40-100. otherwise it would look shite! Fot black text 100%k is fine but for large black areas then use a photoshop buildup. ie 60-40-40-100
- nicko0
ya, I've used this before but you have to be careful, if you have small type (esp serif fonts) the slightest hint of mis-re will make it look shit.
- -_MU_-0
For rich black I tend to go 100k 60C
- stem0
For a nice rich black I use - 100k 50c
Easier to register
Less drying time
Cyan is 'nearer' to black, if you use Magenta insted it obviously has a 'redness' to it.All depends on what you are tying to achieve though.
- save0
I use the registration black in quark, can't get any blacker than that!!
- PonyBoy0
Enter response:
instead of you all trying to be a bunch of experts on the freakin' subject - why don't you call your printer and ask them the proper formula based on their press settings.
DUHHHHHHH! DUH DUH DAAA DUH DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH DeeeeeerrrrrrrRRRRrrRRR!
// just kidding
- stem0
Don't let you printer dictate your design, you'll end up in a whole world of shit!
- nicko0
...and, if you're producing a number of press ads you can't phone every frickin printer to find out what they 'prefer'...
- stem0
Any printer worth their salt should be able to print whatever you throw at them, as long as you are not a total amateur.
The difference between a good printer and a bad one is that a good one will inform you of any technical problems/issues with your files, a bad printer will just print whatever you send them.
If the printer is not forthcoming with any 'feedback', make it your business to ask.
- PonyBoy0
Enter response:
when I saw this thread - I thought it was going to be ablout how rich black people are.
- stem0
Black people are more of a pantone 498, rather thatn 100k 50c!!!
- PonyBoy0
Enter response:
Black people are more of a pantone 498, rather thatn 100k 50c!!!
stem
(Jun 13 05, 01:35)
++++++I dunno, dude - I'd call my printer and find out from them first.
- stem0
Enter response:
Black people are more of a pantone 498, rather thatn 100k 50c!!!
stem
(Jun 13 05, 01:35)
++++++I dunno, dude - I'd call my printer and find out from them first.
PonyBoy
(Jun 13 05, 01:36)Hahaha!
- save0
*trys not too laugh
- stem0
*trys not too laugh
save
(Jun 13 05, 01:42)Let it out man - you'll feel happy and bright, like pantone 021!