Design is stupid
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- zedvox0
i disgree i do not tink art is any different than design or vice versa.
both are outputted in the world for peopel to interact with.
both are equal.
thank you
- stormzealot0
i absolutely agree zedvox
- winter0
Ortega Y Gasset was the most clever philos. of modern thought. he predicted this dumb TV culture where nothing really happens. he predicted that in about 15 years we woudl be talking about movie plotd like something written on a religious principle. he predicted that modern man would (by way of providing a medium culture to everyone) became mediocre itself.
this lack of reflection on our own actions is the thing that worries me. it's not about pixels. it's about the effect.
but maybe i'm just on a bad day. maybe i'm surfing too much to see snowboarding promoted as the new-u.
i'm tired of this get-used-to-the-way-it-works-and... IT IS WRONG.
be honest about it not to the point of just admitting it but to the point of getting some earnest progress out of this hard-work (not of this hardware).
- johndiggity0
The music example you used made of impromptu lines is more along the Dadaist theory of art as a question. Is it art? Maybe. Is it good art? Absolutely not. The greatest works of art were so great because they broke new boundaries and asked questions.
Design is not about asking questions, it's the answer to questions.
- johndiggity0
Let's start a designer's country.
- Chimp0
form follows function
- winter0
that was an ironical post.
- stormzealot0
I'm with diggity
ou own country could be a very grand and beautiful thing
- BonSeff0
some proof that controlling your message works
http://www.designcouncil.org.uk/…
- kodap0
design is all about projecting.
so when your thinking on putting in practice a project you already designed it.
- zedvox0
are you crazy?? a country full of desingers wearing black all the time and talking like
"my sex life sucks.it is a design problem.must solve it."
- johndiggity0
Secede! Rise Up! Think about it. All comercials would be funny, all road signs would be legible and make sense. Disabled people would be able to lead as close to normal lives as possible. Good looking, well built automobiles. Of course Helvetica would be the State Typeface...
- winter0
ok. i'll try.
- kodap0
?
- kodap0
I guess you're all talking about "webdesign" and "graphic design"
*leaves thread
- Bozilla0
If design became all about the money (I've never looked at it as art or shit like that), it has become just a job and nothing else. I'm sick and tired of people, "living" design lifestyle and all the BS. That is exactly why a design community can't fuc*king charge universal/higher fees for it's services, because everyone "lives as a designer" and not as a businessman. Nobody in today's world cares about art that much any more. It's all about SELL SELL SELL, and I have nothing against that, unfortunately majority of so-called designers today really doesn't get this profession seriously. It's, you either adopt or you live a renegade art life (like it was before). There's no middle ground. I think everything became so unprofessional with designers and that's why we sometimes have problems justifying our work. I don't care if I don't make a masterpiece just as long all of my invoices are paid and my client makes money so they can recommend me. It's business.
It might sound shallow, but it's reality.
- johndiggity0
I'm joking about the State thing obviously. it always makes me think of Nazi Germany. I think Hitler tried to design his version of the perfect society, controlling every aspect of life, architecture, art, music, what the people looked like etc... I guess design is about control on some level.
- michaelx30
design = wit
- vespa0
I haven't read this whole thread but it seems like people who hate design shouldn't be doing it. No one has a gun to your head. You aren't being forced to work in a sweatshop like so many less fortunate people who are just as worthy of good jobs as you and I.
Bozilla, my job is nothing like what you've described. I make a decent living, work with people whose company and way of thinking inspires me, solve problems, user-test my design decisions, but I also get to solve fun problems like how to make something entertaining. I'm not making art, i'm designing, and I love it.
- winter0
hhuhhuh. design is about design! that's precisely my point. it is not some pratical way of life.
i've been observing the way people are bound to this graphic world and i gather that there is some psychological transfer here.
LIFE IS ELSEWHERE.
design is just a synthetic way of making nice drawings and i'm just bothered the way people keep posting their problems as if design and life just got tangled by some whimsical godess.
and bothered the way design is full of fast comments about life and lifestyle (like epigrams) as if there is going to be some solution. there isn't really...
so... the point is why is this PVN looking like ICQ most of the time. why is design getting more and more related to the way-of-life rather by an exploration of the work itself?
i think these are essential questions to what we are all doing. eseential question to the work we should do in my op.
as NTB uses to say: "as you were."