Waxing Philisophic...
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Politics and religion have really been playing with my brain. It's blocking my creativity! I just feel so separated from the two in my world. Wondering where art fits in. I came up with a reason why. What do you think?
http://www.patterntology.com/phi…
- phatlee0
issuuuues!!!
- rabattski0
please explain "Democracy is good, but it's perfect counterpart in ideology is originality. " because you lost me there buddy.
- quota0
rabattski,
democracy is good as long as a multitude of ideas are allowed to be be expressed. In the US we have two parties. In Germany there are 16. I'm feeling polarized here. I have to vote for black or white when I feel grey.
- phatlee0
chill out!
- rabattski0
so with "originality" you mean more options to choose from ? (i'm not english native and are very capable in missing the point :)) must say lack of options isn't really helping the situation but i think the whole (uk based) system reeks. as in, if in every electoral district 51% votes for A than the US is ruled by A for 100% and there is zero representation for B (which is 49%). that is something i find very odd and very undemocratic. it doesn't represent the people.
- quota0
I guess I should chill out. I'm just challenged from every direction to have an opinion on political matters when I just want to dream an create.
- phatlee0
hmmnn....
- quota0
What I'm saying is that in the US, every subject has a yah or nay and the two parties have picked yah or nay on each subject and when you vote a party you vote every decision they say yah or nay to. If we had more parties, there might be one that actually met my own ideas.
- quota0
So, in a perfect democratic world, we would just all vote on whether we like each idea presented.
- rabattski0
what does it take to start your own?
- rabattski0
perfect democracy doesn't excist. won't ever excist. no pure economical / political system excists. only in theory.
- quota0
Anyone can. And many have tried, but money and advertising rise above ideas. Right now, our country is in a tv ad war between John Kerry and George Bush. And the ads are getting more creative. The price tag is 40-50 million every 3 months.
- rasko40
well you have some thoughts there and you have somehow created a couple of paragraphs that unexmined might appear to make some kind of statement.
Unfortunately it is entirely subjective and shows offers no evidence of research or proving factors, that, coupled with the fact that you say things like you want a world"that does not deal with the past in a derivative way" and then follow it with "Nature changes with an equal amount of adaptation from the present and reformats tested strategies from the past. Success stories in nature always do something original."
You seems to contradict yourself there and in fact that second sentance seems to contradict itself within the same sentence and without offering any kind of backup to support what you are saying.
While you may be satisfied with your superficial structuring of words unfortunately it offers little to the reader but pedestals to push over.
- quota0
rabattski,
Do you have any hope in internet democracy? You know, if they can ever get over the security problem?
- quota0
Rasko,
I think I define 'derivitive' and 'reformats' in different ways.'Derivitive' is something that changes the past slighty. Like a plant that grows a different shaped leaf.
'Reformats' uses the past in a more elemental way. Like a plant might use nitrogen in the soil in a way that it becomes a completely different plant completely.
- rabattski0
no, not really. you cannot build a political system that would control the entire western world. you have to take local intrests, culture and differences in account. then again i have no high regards for humanity in general.
- quota0
I agree with you there. In the best system, a digital democracy would be local. I also have little regard for humanity but am looking for good way out of even caring! It's hard to justify a first world creative life when the rest of the world is starving or on the brink of genocide. Maybe I'm trying to create some kind of arguement that a creative life does humanity more good than a life dedicated to actually helping people.
- rabattski0
i don't think a creative life will do humanity more good than a life dedicated to helping out people. seriously. i think people rather be helped than be given a painting. unless you can eat the painting or use it to heat up the furnace.
- quota0
I started out this thread thinking there was something honorable in what I was doing. I end up knowing that I am a tool of a society that uses me to further it's oppresion over others. The creative mind is an elitist mind creating reasons for the haves to look down their noses at the have nots.
- quota0
And I watch this thread die as no one is able to give any good reason for 'design' or 'creating art' being meaningful in the world at all. In fact, we are a bunch of wealthy hypocrites that claim to have some kind of social responsiblity. We are a bunch of ego driven debutantes of the corporate system, plying for fashion status in a world that gives two shits about starving children, racial equality, burnt corpses and blown up trains. Give me my mouse or give me liberty!
After all...We deserve it. We're creative... and you're not.